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  1. 10-16-2009, 12:31 PM #1
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    what knot to make eyes in ends of prusik cordage?

    What knots do climbers usually use to make the eyes in the two ends of prusik cordage? Thannks.
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  2. 10-16-2009, 05:10 PM #2
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    I just tie a sling using a doubled fisherman, then seize the tag ends to running part....of course the seizings are mostly fussiness o my part...

    I like having few extra slings kicking round...great for hanging stuff in the tree or an extra toehold for weird positions...
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    I use a scaffold hitch. I think some call it a fishermans knot.


    I use an anchor hitch on the other end of the climbing line because I'm too tight to buy spliced eyes. Actually I have six or seven climbing ropes and none have splices.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TreeCo View Post
    I use a scaffold hitch. I think some call it a fishermans knot.


    I use an anchor hitch on the other end of the climbing line because I'm too tight to buy spliced eyes. Actually I have six or seven climbing ropes and none have splices.
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    I tend to like knots over splices...I can look at the rope every time I tie the knot..hard to know what's going on inside a splice...but then I'm pretty light so
    the extra strength in a splice doesn't bother me.
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  5. 10-16-2009, 06:21 PM #5
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    I use grapevine ( I think that's the same as double fisherman ) to connect two ends of rope or cord, then dress the tails with tape after I load it at ground level. For eyes I just use figure 8, then load and tape the tails. I haven't ever had a grapvine creep once loaded, but the Figure 8 creeps a little once in awhile so I'm not sure if a figure 8 is the best to use for eyes. If you use a figure 8 it uses a lot of rope, and you want to keep an eye on it. I imagine splicing would be better, but I don't know anything about splicing. Good luck.
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    I bought a short (24 inch) spliced bee-lin eye to eye for my michaocan that I like with very short legs. Turns out the whipping from the splices is so stiff that I am back to using tied cords anyway. The stiffness interferes with the legs moving freely.

    In theory I like the idea of the spliced eye to eye because it is so much more compact.

    In response to TreCo, last time I visited my brother he spliced a very tight eye (snug on a biner) on one end my newest climbing line and I really will never look back.
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    Sherrill's Grissly-Splice on 10mm BeeLine = very compact + everthing is inspectable, all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SINGLE-JACK View Post
    Sherrill's Grissly-Splice on 10mm BeeLine = very compact + everthing is inspectable, all the time.

    Is the BeeLine the stuff that does not melt easily, such as during a descent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasmech View Post
    Is the BeeLine the stuff that does not melt easily, such as during a descent?
    Yup. I like the bee-line the best. Ice is ok, but i don't think it holds up quit as well as the bee line, but is alot softer also. I've also used ultra-tech too and works pretty good, but don't have alot of time on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TDunk View Post
    Yup. I like the bee-line the best. Ice is ok, but i don't think it holds up quit as well as the bee line, but is alot softer also. I've also used ultra-tech too and works pretty good, but don't have alot of time on it.
    How long should I have my prussic made? I would just measure my current one but I'm not home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasmech View Post
    How long should I have my prussic made? I would just measure my current one but I'm not home.
    30" is considered the "norm", but some prefer 28". I will say that my Ice is 28" (actually 27" when measured) and it's a bit more of a struggle to tie than the 30" ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasmech View Post
    What knots do climbers usually use to make the eyes in the two ends of prusik cordage? Thannks.
    Assuming you are tying a french prussik why not just buy a decent length of beeline and make your own cords with dfl or tfl for terminations? I cannot ever see me buying precut lengths of beeline let alone prespliced. What happens when it rains? Or if you use someone elses climbing line? Both situations require a different number of wraps unless you happen to like sliding down faster than you can climb up.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by outofmytree View Post
    Assuming you are tying a french prussik why not just buy a decent length of beeline and make your own cords with dfl or tfl for terminations? I cannot ever see me buying precut lengths of beeline let alone prespliced. What happens when it rains? Or if you use someone elses climbing line? Both situations require a different number of wraps unless you happen to like sliding down faster than you can climb up.....
    Not to sound like an idiot but what is a tfl?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasmech View Post
    Not to sound like an idiot but what is a tfl?
    dfl = double fishermans loop.
    tfl = triple fishermans loop.

    Same knot with one extra turn.

    There is nothing idiotic about asking a question. True fools say nothing so as to appear clever and end up decieving only themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by outofmytree View Post
    dfl = double fishermans loop.
    tfl = triple fishermans loop.

    Same knot with one extra turn.

    There is nothing idiotic about asking a question. True fools say nothing so as to appear clever and end up decieving only themselves.
    Yea, or getting themselves killed. I look at dying as pretty permanent.
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