Poulan thread

**rms61moparman** · 03-09-2012, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by nick 55

I am usually a soft spoken guy, but sometimes I have been known to stir the pot. A lot.

Nick

You got nothing to worry about.
We here know the truth, and the truth is that for firewood the S25s have no equal.
Would you use one commercially ??? Probably not....although they were THE go to saw around here until very recently.
For what WE do they are perfect...so to heck with the non believers!!!

Now, on to better things.

Anyone have a need for a 375 Farm Pro???

Mike

**diggers_dad** · 03-09-2012, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by Modifiedmark

Diggers_Dad, that f3-100 is awsome, great find.

Mark, are these things supposed to have knuckle-busting compression? Seriously, it's got a lot. I got a spare bar and 3 rusty chains with it. Did I overpay at $50?

dd

**barneyrb** · 03-09-2012, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by diggers_dad

Mark, are these things supposed to have knuckle-busting compression? Seriously, it's got a lot. I got a spare bar and 3 rusty chains with it. Did I overpay at $50?

dd

If it makes you feel any better I'll double your investment.....

**homelitejim** · 03-09-2012, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by diggers_dad

Mark, are these things supposed to have knuckle-busting compression? Seriously, it's got a lot. I got a spare bar and 3 rusty chains with it. Did I overpay at $50?

dd

Here is the info from Acres site.
Model Profile: F3-100

Nice sand cast Poulan, and at 5 cubes and gear reduction with a bow, very nice. I'm not sure how much compression it should have but I know most of my Poulan saws have healthy amounts of compression. $50 sounds like a deal to me.

**nick 55** · 03-09-2012, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by Modifiedmark

No need for negs, you just stated your mind and so did I.

Why do you wonder about a 655 bar? You got something to tell us?

To be accurate they use a D007 mount, which is basically the same as the D196 Homelite mount exccept the D007 used a different DL count on most of them. For example a D196 mount 24" bar used 81 DL chain while the D007 used a 84DL chain.

No need to worry though you can use a large Husky D009 mount on the 655, just file the slot out .5mm and your done.

Still working on it. I will post some pictures if/when it pulls together.

Nick

**Eccentric** · 03-09-2012, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by blackoak

Have you ever used a 200T? I'm not knocking the Poulan top handles at all. I like the old American made saws as much as anyone here, but like I said before, If Poulan was still making saws in Shrevport in this day and age their top handle saws would not even resemble the ones made in the past except in color only.

Why do guys ALWAYS ask that question when somebody dares to choose a different saw than the $600 wundersaw? I've ran and worked on BOTH of the models in question here (really). Since I also don't make my living up in a tree, I choose the Poulan. I no longer work on saws for a living, but I used to. For my uses (that I stated in the other thread), I'll take the saw that's MUCH easier to work on, and more economical. The extra 1.5 pounds and somewhat slower small wood cutting speed don't bother me at all. NOBODY in the other thread said the Poulan was a better production arborist saw. One guy suggested it as an alternative (and NOT specifically for climbing) and the macho MS200T crowd came unglued. They insulted the saws (even stated that they should be dropped from a tree....stupid) and insulted us. Now that DOES bother me. People get funny on the internet. I doubt those #######s would have beenn quite so insulting in person.

**Eccentric** · 03-09-2012, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by rms61moparman

You got nothing to worry about.
We here know the truth, and the truth is that for firewood the S25s have no equal.
Would you use one commercially ??? Probably not....although they were THE go to saw around here until very recently.
For what WE do they are perfect...so to heck with the non believers!!!

Now, on to better things.

Anyone have a need for a 375 Farm Pro???

Mike

Define need Mike...

**Modifiedmark** · 03-09-2012, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by diggers_dad

Mark, are these things supposed to have knuckle-busting compression? Seriously, it's got a lot. I got a spare bar and 3 rusty chains with it. Did I overpay at $50?

dd

I'm not sure on them, never had one or seen one up close. I know my 71A is bigger and while its stout to pull I wouldnt call it knuckle busting. As for what you gave I would say you done fine.

**Eccentric** · 03-09-2012, 06:38 PM

And to think I talked a long time arborist friend into switching from Husky TH saws to the MS200T years ago when he was unhappy with his little orange saws. Guy HATED Stihls at the time due to some bad experiences with an 020T and an 036. This was probably over 10 years ago. I liked his 262XP's, but was unimpressed with whatever orange TH saws he had. Since then he has gone through two new MS200T's.

People here on AS are so touchy about needing other people to fall all over themselves with praise and admiration when the 200T is mentioned. Was there a need to call us cookie cutters and say we're bursting into tears just because we dare to like a different TH saw? Some people just aren't worth pissing on to save them from fire...

**nick 55** · 03-09-2012, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Eccentric

doubt those #######s would have beenn quite so insulting in person.

That's cause climbers are typically a lot smaller than "groundies".

Nick

**diggers_dad** · 03-09-2012, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Modifiedmark

I'm not sure on them, never had one or seen one up close. I know my 71A is bigger and while its stout to pull I wouldnt call it knuckle busting. As for what you gave I would say you done fine.

Okay, my inexperience on the compression. It checks at 150 by my gauge. I didn't take into account the very small starter on the very large flywheel. Add that to trying to turn 5 cubic inches of engine and 150 feels like much more. As for the saw, as best I can tell it is complete and all original; no stuff added. Check that, it is missing a cover for the muffler and the two screws that hold the cover on. Nice blue spark and the the bow bar is oiled and turns freely. I see no reason it shouldn't run as is with fresh fuel. A good Friday all the way around.

**Eccentric** · 03-09-2012, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by nick 55

That's cause climbers are typically a lot smaller than "groundies".

Nick

I do have to say they're strong however. My arborist buddy is about 5'07" and 160Lbs....but all muscle. Been in a few drunken wrestling matches/fights with him over the decades. I get the best of him, but it takes some work. I'm a LOT bigger (but not much taller) than him and know more dirty tricks. Dislocated his shoulder once without meaning to. Seriously. A bunch of good friends blowing off steam, plus too much booze equals some injuries...

**nick 55** · 03-09-2012, 07:38 PM

I guess I can't comment negatively on it, because I'm learning to climb. Not for money, but primarily because I want to be able to take care of my own lot, which has LOTS of trees. I have a friend who's an arborist and climber so I've got some good teaching.

I won't be buying a 200T. That's what my 25 is for

Nick

**zogger** · 03-09-2012, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by Eccentric

I do have to say they're strong however. My arborist buddy is about 5'07" and 160Lbs....but all muscle. Been in a few drunken wrestling matches/fights with him over the decades. I get the best of him, but it takes some work. I'm a LOT bigger (but not much taller) than him and know more dirty tricks. Dislocated his shoulder once without meaning to. Seriously. A bunch of good friends blowing off steam, plus too much booze equals some injuries...

The last I knew about this, back when I was weightlifting a lot and following it, the consensus back then was about what your buddy is for human weight to strength ratios. It used to be 5'8' and around 150-160 lbs.

Now there's a big set of variables there, as there are three types of muscle cells, and it depends on the ratio any one guy has of those (extreme example, sprinters vs marathoners), but that was in the ball park for a general rule of thumb on just grunt per lb.

I'm smaller than your friend, shorter and much lighter, but way back, lifting at 126, I did 180 bench, 320 squat and 395 dead lift. I've done more than that later on, I got up to 145-150 lbs for a few years (had to eat like three moose and a bull to get there), but those were official at that weight. The records back then (no idea now, certainly higher) at that class were about 15-20 lbs heavier in each lift.

In other words, little guys can be deceiving, especially if they have any speed to 'em, along with some grunt.

**a. palmer jr.** · 03-09-2012, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by Eccentric

Why do guys ALWAYS ask that question when somebody dares to choose a different saw than the $600 wundersaw? I've ran and worked on BOTH of the models in question here (really). Since I also don't make my living up in a tree, I choose the Poulan. I no longer work on saws for a living, but I used to. For my uses (that I stated in the other thread), I'll take the saw that's MUCH easier to work on, and more economical. The extra 1.5 pounds and somewhat slower small wood cutting speed don't bother me at all. NOBODY in the other thread said the Poulan was a better production arborist saw. One guy suggested it as an alternative (and NOT specifically for climbing) and the macho MS200T crowd came unglued. They insulted the saws (even stated that they should be dropped from a tree....stupid) and insulted us. Now that DOES bother me. People get funny on the internet. I doubt those #######s would have beenn quite so insulting in person.

A lot of it has to do with what kind of chain you have on it and how sharp it is.... the saw motor doesn't do much cutting!