i went to sthil dealer today that was the price they gave me.for a light trim saw , 630$ seem way out there. the echo341 was 275$. k
i went to sthil dealer today that was the price they gave me.for a light trim saw , 630$ seem way out there. the echo341 was 275$. k
I have the 192t and really like, that said I've never run and 200t.
It's a good saw and very reliable, but that's alot money extra for the 200t.
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ive ran em both. i owned a 200t for a short time too. the 192t is a gutless turd compared to the 200t. but it definatly comes with a heavy price tag.
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I walked into a dealer to buy a 200 and came out with a 192 just for that reason. I've run mine hard for most of the year and it's a very nice saw for limbing but pretty much limited to that. I think you'd be pretty disapointed very quickly with its power if you tried to use it for much more than that for very long.
The 192T is listed as having 30.1cc, 1.7hp and weighing 7.0 pounds.
The 200T is listed as having 35.2cc, 2.1hp and weighing 7.9 pounds.
Is 0.4hp extra really worth double the price?
I read that guys can run a 16 inch bar on the 200T and the saw will pull that bar even buried in oak or maple.
My little Solo637 ($300) bogs down in 10 inch maple.
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There is a considerable power difference, in a bucket or climbing you can use the 200t for limbs up to 10" on a regular basis. Its very, very, very, very durable, the gold standard for climbing saws.
That being said the saw is rediculously priced for anyone except a professional trimmer who uses it every day. In that case it will pay for itself the first year.
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I've had to replace a few of the tanks on the 192's but if you use the saw properly I don't think the tank being plastic is an issue. I'd say we sell the 192 twice as often as a 200. You can buy a 192 were I work for $295 with a a 14 inch bar and chain and If I remember right the 200 is like $550 with a 14 inch.
It's not just about the ccs and HP. The 192 is nothing but an occasional use home owner grade saw with a top handle. The 200T is a pro saw through and through. There's no comparison in the power and throttle response. Anyone that really needs a prop tophandle saw, will have no trouble justifying the cost of a 200T. I've heard them referred to by tree guys as their "money makers". They're just that good of a saw. The 192 is not.
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If you work in a tree, the 200T will pay for itself in the first day with the increased productivity over a 192. It does pull a 14" bar just fine in hard wood, buried, and is THE saw for takedowns. If you only need a light trimming saw and/or are a homeowner, you won't be disappointed with a 192.
That said, if you've ever run a 200T, you will know why pro's don't think twice about its price.
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I've been suffering through the 192 for too long now, since my 200 grew legs last summer. There is NO comparison between the two in performance.
I was REALLY missing the 200 today blocking down sycamore with a 2'x3' landing zone. Probably would have saved 20 minutes with the 200. If I had enough work to stay busy the extra $300 means nothing compared to the daily savings in time, and the long term reliability with the 200.
It is expensive tho, unless it's your climb saw. Then it's priceless.
With the 200T, whip out the muffler screen/re-stricter to un-strangle it. Good ones go from low idle to about 16000 revs in a split second. They also NEVER stall at idle no matter what position the saw's held. Not that that shows as figures on paper. Also only 0.1kw is a noticeable power difference on small TH saws, 1.7-1.8kw versus 1.3kw is a demolition
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What's your intended use? What other saws do you own in the 2-4HP range?
As has been said, the 192T is fine if you understand it's limitations, which are greater if you select the heavier gauge 3/8 .050" chain setup.
As a weekend warrior managing my firewood needs, the 192T has been great. But I also recently added a MS211 to fill the gap between the 192T and my 361.
For nearly the cost of a 200T, a home owner can get the 192T and a nice rear handle, home owner saw (MS211/MS250) and cover alot of wood cutting bases.
If you're climbing and cutting on a regular basis, you would regret not spending the extra $$$ on the 200T, and probably end up buying a 200t later.
If you're a still leaning toward the 192T to save $$$, consider these setups...
- 12" Rollomatic E-Light bar (3005 000 7405) and 3/8" .050" chain (63PMC3-44)
- 12" Picco Micro Mini bar (3005 000 3905) and 3/8" .043" chain (61PMMC3-44)
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