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Thread: Video: Ported MS441

  1. 12-26-2009, 05:07 PM #16
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    Man LOOK at that thing slice through that pine like BUTTER!!! MAN I gotta get some money together to get one of my saws ported!!!!



    Is it just me - or did that pine tree NOT drop the direction that it was intended to??? It kinda looks like it went 90* from where it looks like the notch was?

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  2. 12-26-2009, 05:17 PM #17
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    Looking & sounding good.

    I've never run or worked on a Strato saw yet, but I never really did understand the argument that they wouldn't respond well to modifications. More fuel to the engine should mean more power regardless of design intricacies (to a point, of course).

    How would you compare the fuel economy degradation from stock to modded on this saw compared to a non-strato saw (say a 440)? I ask because doing a basic port job on a traditional saw shouldn't really modify its operation much; just allow more fuel to flow. Whereas on a Strato engine, and this is pure non-experienced speculation/conjecture on my part, could it be possible that modified ports and higher-than-stock RPMs could alter the effectiveness of the strato charge itself, therefore further hampering fuel economy (while not necessarily hurting power)? Feel free to gimme a swift kick if I'm talking out of my rear end; I'm just thinking out loud here. Just want to learn as much as I can about these so that if/when I own or have to work on one I'm not completely uninformed.
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  3. 12-26-2009, 05:19 PM #18
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    Man that things screams, Good job brad, I got a chance to run ropes 372 you modded and it will scream too. Amazing how they wake up when you finish one.
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  4. 12-26-2009, 05:21 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by the westspartan View Post
    Brad, It looks GREAT! I'll be there Monday. I can't wait!!!!!!!!! What was the diameter of that first log? Was the bar burried?
    It's buried in both the hardwood and the pine.
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  5. 12-26-2009, 05:21 PM #20
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    This 441 sounds and looks good Brad. I was always on the fence about the strato-saws until Tree Sling'r posted the video of the one he did. I think there's plenty of potential in these motors...
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  6. 12-26-2009, 05:25 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodOnTheIce View Post
    Since Dan lives about a half hour away it will be neat to run both my ported 362 and his 441 side by side.
    The two cylinders are basically identical.
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  7. 12-26-2009, 05:37 PM #22
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    SWEET!! That thing sounds good and it really puts the hammer down on that wood!

    Dan you are a lucky man!
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  8. 12-26-2009, 05:39 PM #23
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    Sounds good and strong for a saw that is not to respond well to mods.
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  9. 12-26-2009, 05:41 PM #24
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    is 32/1 a kinda safety margin because its strato saw. is dan going to run 32/1 im more curious about this then the actual porting.

    what ratio does stihl recommend for the 441
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  10. 12-26-2009, 05:44 PM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan View Post
    is 32/1 a kinda safety margin because its strato saw. is dan going to run 32/1 im more curious about this then the actual porting.

    what ratio does stihl recommend for the 441
    Read the original thread on this saw. LINK. I run 32:1 in all my saws. This saw is used for milling.
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  11. 12-26-2009, 05:46 PM #26
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    i see grasshoppa, i was under the impression from typed words in the past that you run 40/1 my apologies.

    makes since now, i guess i miss read something somewhere and missed the thread on this saw.

    shes looking very strong
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  12. 12-26-2009, 05:50 PM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan View Post
    i see grasshoppa, i was under the impression from typed words in the past that you run 40/1 my apologies.

    makes since now, i guess i miss read something somewhere and missed the thread on this saw.

    shes looking very strong
    I only recently went to 32:1. I recommend at least 40:1 with full synthetic only in a ported saw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blsnelling View Post
    Hey Dan. You're welcome to come up Monday and we'll put in some wood. I think you'll be real pleased with this saw. How it got a reputation of not being very strong, or not responding well to mods is beyond me. I wouldn't mind owning one one little bit. But....it's no longer a fuel sipper, lol


    I'm of the opinion that the 441 is probably one of the best saws out there for a non-modder. If you want good power, good fuel consumption, good iar filtration, good AV, and you don't plan to mod it... then it's the saw for you.

    Most here bad mouth it because it doesn't take to mods like the equally weighted 460 does.


    It's the stratocharged engine like what's on the 441. They're a great running engine with lower fuel consumtion, but they don't respond as well to mods.
    Any chance of ever wanting it modded? The 460 responds excellent to mods. If you're leaving it stock, I'd say go for the 441 and take advange of better fuel economy, AV, and filteration.




    Quote Originally Posted by THALL10326 View Post
    Propaganda is how. Why I'm surprized you can pick that saw up off the ground,LOL

    She looks to be running pretty strong there, good job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    I thought i remembered you being part of the propoganda machine...




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    I wouldn't wanna give that one back after running it, you look like you're having waaaay to much fun running it. I gotta beat Dan to your house lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by FATGUY View Post
    I wouldn't wanna give that one back after running it, you look like you're having waaaay to much fun running it. I gotta beat Dan to your house lol
    I'm sure Dan will share You and Andy ought to come up Monday and meet Dan when he picks it up.
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