Not all flip caps are created equal

**DSS** · 04-16-2010, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by WoodChucker81

There's a guy named Reed who mows his lawn. Ljute makes him speak only in cantonese and wear a black cloak with a water cask over his shoulder filled with M&Ms. The lawnmower is stored down in the basement. Ljute makes him haul the mower up and down the stairs each and every week for a good grass cutting. When the grass is cut, Ljute makes Reed eat as many M&Ms as blades of grass he cut to remind him of all the death he caused and how tasty death can be. The guy never wants to do it but he's warned that he'll end up like Bobby if he doesn't. Poor guy. At this point I'm thinking Ljute is kind of an odd ball, but I don't have enough evidence yet to be certain.

Weird.

LMAO.....Dude you're starting to have some serious reality issues.

**WoodChuck'r** · 04-16-2010, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by daddy66

LMAO.....Dude you're starting to have some serious reality issues.

Try living in Ljute's basement under these conditions for 11 months, 9 days, 16hrs, 29 minutes, and 54 seconds then tell me how you feel.

Gotta go. Birdseed time.

**oscar4883** · 04-16-2010, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by GASoline71

Seriously... there is nothing wrong with the flippy caps... just the flippy cap users.

Gary

Yup. All my flippy cap issues were caused by my own stupidity. I now constantly chant, "don't overfill the oil....don't overfill the oil...", whenever I fill up a flippy cap saw.

**Loot Munchausen** · 04-16-2010, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by WoodChucker81

Try living in Ljute's basement under these conditions for 11 months, 9 days, 16hrs, 29 minutes, and 54 seconds then tell me how you feel.

Gotta go. Birdseed time.

The basement is cold right now. Good place to stay when it's hot outside.

How did I get dragged into a flippy cap thread?

**boltonranger** · 04-16-2010, 06:01 PM

I posted a fix awhile back - I was amazed at how much emotion my post stirred up;
I think what surprised me was how few replies took interest in the fix and instead wanted to vent about it.
http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=130186

It is an extremely frustrating problem when they won't seat; with me it was the gas cap.
A bad one took me 30 minutes of wasted time on my tailgate when I was losing daylight after work at a friends house bucking logs.

I found it does take a while to figure them out; and they are much more difficult to diagnose than a regular screw-in cap.

I HATE paying for replacements, so I solved my problem by shaving the edges, but I can't blame those who just don't want the hassle.
Stihl would do well to engineer the cap as an option. Something like a special insert that allows a flip-cap; remove the insert and you're back to screw caps.

I never soaked my leg with gas or oil but that would send me right over the edge!

-br

**HorseShoeInFork** · 04-16-2010, 06:26 PM

Never had a problem with flippy caps either. Had a screw in Stihl bar oil come out and waterproof my carhartts and at least I don't have to use a scrench like a Husky.

**ECRUPPRECHT** · 04-16-2010, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by GASoline71

Seriously... there is nothing wrong with the flippy caps... just the flippy cap users.

Gary

Originally Posted by FATGUY

I've said it before and I'll say it again.....if you can't handle the flippy caps, you shouldn't be using a saw.

I Agree ive never had a problem at all always users messing the o rings up??? if by chance you do mess one up they are only like 7 bucks people spend that on a cup of coffee????

**pgg** · 04-16-2010, 06:34 PM

This flippy cap problem thing is bizarre, I've used them since they came out, never ever ever ever ever never have any problem. The smaller oil caps occasionally won't slot in because of debris. That's all it is. Surprise surprise, oil caps attract debris... Simple simple simple fix, just pucker ya lips and blow around the edge of the lid before you plug it in

**JJuday** · 04-16-2010, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by boltonranger

I posted a fix awhile back - I was amazed at how much emotion my post stirred up;
I think what surprised me was how few replies took interest in the fix and instead wanted to vent about it.
http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=130186

It is an extremely frustrating problem when they won't seat; with me it was the gas cap.
A bad one took me 30 minutes of wasted time on my tailgate when I was losing daylight after work at a friends house bucking logs.

I found it does take a while to figure them out; and they are much more difficult to diagnose than a regular screw-in cap.

I HATE paying for replacements, so I solved my problem by shaving the edges, but I can't blame those who just don't want the hassle.
Stihl would do well to engineer the cap as an option. Something like a special insert that allows a flip-cap; remove the insert and you're back to screw caps.

I never soaked my leg with gas or oil but that would send me right over the edge!

-br

Emotion, no. You had a good idea about how to fix caps that were difficult to seat properly into their tanks. My concern was that you blamed Ethanol for the problems. I saw the same problem with my brothers MS 200T's oil cap. I just read through all of the posts and saw one where a theory of bar oil "swelling" the oil cap was mentioned! LMFAO!!! I guess no one here on this site works in a plastic injection molding factory or has ever been around one, but my point is that sometimes there are flawed caps made and installed on these saws. The oil cap on that 200t was FLAWED from day one. New cap = no problem in that equation. I do agree that dirt, saw dust, and other debris could cause some problems too. JJuday

**04ultra** · 04-16-2010, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by GASoline71

Never... ever had a problem on any flippy cap saw I ever used.

Gary

Most problems I see are people over filling the oil tank..........That could be me from time to time....

.

**Jtheo** · 04-16-2010, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by FATGUY

I've said it before and I'll say it again.....if you can't handle the flippy caps, you shouldn't be using a saw.

Well, as long as Dolmar and Husqvarna is building saws, I won't have to deal with a flip cap unless I chose to do so, as in the 362.

As far as running a saw, I started in 1984 with a Sachs Dolmar 112, and have run a bunch of saws since.

I don't plan to quit any time soon. Flip caps or not.

**teacherman** · 04-16-2010, 09:56 PM

I'm sure glad the MS660 still uses screw-in caps.

**Andyshine77** · 04-16-2010, 10:06 PM

Every flip cap I've used acts different. Some act like blonds, they're easy and do whatever you want them to do. Some of them are like brunettes, they're hard to use and never do what you want them to do.

**Jtheo** · 04-17-2010, 02:48 PM

I post a thread and say something good about the flip caps on the MS 362,
and say that I do not want to start another controversy on flip caps,

and then here comes the same old negative crap out of the same corner from some of the same guys..

Anybody who can not work flip caps is an idiot and so on.

My ignore list is getting longer and anybody that dosent like this post can put me on theirs.

I was trying to decide between a 7900 and a 362. Some of you guys helped me make that decision.

Thanks.

**Andyshine77** · 04-17-2010, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by Jtheo

I post a thread and say something good about the flip caps on the MS 362,
and say that I do not want to start another controversy on flip caps,

and then here comes the same old negative crap out of the same corner from some of the same guys..

Anybody who can not work flip caps is an idiot and so on.

My ignore list is getting longer and anybody that dosent like this post can put me on theirs.

I was trying to decide between a 7900 and a 362. Some of you guys helped me make that decision.

Thanks.

Both are great saws, but for the weight and price the 7900 is a much better deal.