Thread: New member orders Jonsered 2165

I have been lurking and reading a lot here for a few days. I just had to join this forum which seems to be a gold mine of experience and information. So recently as I was getting the last of this years firewood my beloved Jonsered 670 champ kicked the bucket. I took it to the dealer and found out the piston and cylinder were shot. Labour costs would be too high even if parts could be found. If anyone is interested in the remaining parts PM me. I had used the saw for several years after buying from a pawnshop. I think it was worked pretty hard in the resource industry before I got it and maybe it was even stolen, I don't know but it was what I could find and afford at the time. All in all it worked well without any real repair bills labourwise until now. I told the dealer I wanted a new saw just like it. He suggested the 2165 and had an attractive price. I ordered it and then came here to find out what it was! What a relief to find out that it just might be one of the best saws of all time! Besides cutting firewood I would like to try a bit of chainsaw milling. While this saw is no 90-100 cc milling powerhead I think from what I have read here that it may work quite well if I don't push it too much. The timber I have access to here in the boreal is pine, spruce poplar and birch up to about 20" in diameter and I want to cut mostly 8-10 foot long and 8-12" wide material. So anyways I am really happy to be getting my first new saw ever and promise to ask advice on a saw for my wife. She wants one next she says.

Jonsered is a good saw. I learned on one- jred 535. old school. light saw. I now run STIHL. The Jred is my stepdads saw.

Congrats on thew saw.

Remember one thing: even the smaller saws can cut the bigger wood. I would not do it often though...

BTW I love the user name. I remmeber him from red green show.

Congrats on the new saw and welcome to A.S.! I hope you like your new 2165 right out of the box…if not let’s just say there’s room for improvement. Love my red & black saws.

Thanks Josh, just don't tell Red I got a new saw, he will want to borrow it. Not a chance man, he can duct tape his own saw together.

Ron: I would be interested in learning more about the Piston and cylinder upgrade as well as the muffler mod for this saw. I might be interested in the muffler mod in the short term and the big bore mod in the long term if or when the worst happens and it has a seizure.

You are going to like that 2165. PM sent on the 670.

The 2165 shouldn't really cut with the 670 Champ that is in order, but the difference may not be noted?

Not sure exactly what you are saying sawtroll. The 670 champ was an older 67cc saw and the 2165 65cc. The 2165 would have more power I am guessing because of better design? Maybe you know more about it?

congrats on the new saw, I bought a 2165 about 4 yrs ago and it's been great. I believe they are about the best saw bargain out there. Mine cost $509 with 5 chains and a 20" and 28" bar. I know the prices are way up from that now, but it's still a great saw for the cost.

BTW, welcome to the forum RangerGord.

Originally Posted by rangergord

Not sure exactly what you are saying sawtroll. The 670 champ was an older 67cc saw and the 2165 65cc. The 2165 would have more power I am guessing because of better design? Maybe you know more about it?

Among current Jonsereds, you need a 2171 or 2172 to outcut a 670 Champ that is in order - the 2165 is designed to not perform quite as well, as it is designed to not be a true pro saw.

It is about hitting different price points, with basically the same design - the 670 also had "non-pro" companions.....

Also, remember that all those Jonsereds are Huskys with some minor changes (more on the 670 than on the newer ones), and several models that I didn't mention are involved in the total picture.

Anyway, the 2165 should be a decent replacement, and if your 670 was worn it may outperform it!

You should like that 2165. I think they and the 365 Husky are the best bang for the buck going in that line up.

2165 is an awesome saw. it is a better bargain compared to a 2171. i used 266se and xps and 670 for years. i have a 2165 i use every day and dont see much diffrence between them.

Thanks Sawtroll, Steveo, Vibes and Thumper. I am confident I made the right choice now after your responses and all the other reading I have done on this site. The UKArborsite is great too learned alot on the milling forum. I am exploring the Husqvarna site right now looking at smaller saws. Funny thing is I do not see the husqvarna 365 listed in the current lineup. Anyone know why that is?

Originally Posted by rangergord

Thanks Sawtroll, Steveo, Vibes and Thumper. I am confident I made the right choice now after your responses and all the other reading I have done on this site. The UKArborsite is great too learned alot on the milling forum. I am exploring the Husqvarna site right now looking at smaller saws. Funny thing is I do not see the husqvarna 365 listed in the current lineup. Anyone know why that is?

Try the uk site. It is not on all market's. Just bought my self a used 365.

Originally Posted by SawTroll

Among current Jonsereds, you need a 2171 or 2172 to outcut a 670 Champ that is in order - the 2165 is designed to not perform quite as well, as it is designed to not be a true pro saw.

It is about hitting different price points, with basically the same design - the 670 also had "non-pro" companions.....

Also, remember that all those Jonsereds are Huskys with some minor changes (more on the 670 than on the newer ones), and several models that I didn't mention are involved in the total picture.

Anyway, the 2165 should be a decent replacement, and if your 670 was worn it may outperform it!

Sorry Troll, but this is an instance where the numbers don't tell the whole story. The 2165/365 if it is a closed port model will have more low end grunt than the 670 and actually pull a longer bar a little better. The 670 has a couple more rpms and in softwood will be faster than the 2165.

You will be very very happy with that 2165. For the weight I would still rather have a 2171, but for the money the 2165/365 Special is a fantastic performer