Thread: Why no Stihl here

Originally Posted by THALL10326

Awwwww yes we know, you have run them both, you know first hand, wait a minute have you ran a 261, I didn't think so, haha. He said his workers like the 261 better, they also said no old man from Norway was gonna change thier mind either,LOLOL Troll its getting cold in Virginia and you know when it gets cold the first thing I like to do is pick on you, just like ole times huh,

Feeling the MS261 in a shop was more than enough to confirm that my low expectations were justified, regarding how it would handle - it just felt appalling, for a 50cc saw.

I think some dealer's know about one make over another. Or could know little about any. But let's face it they are human like us, and probably have favorites too. I would ask himwhere he comes to the Stihl is better conclusion. I bet it is preference, just like some guy's prefer a ford or chevy. I do agree with Nikko on the 261 compared to the 346. The 260-026 would be closer in comparison I think. I picked up a 261 I got for my buddy. I never ran it, dont want to. It feels awkward, off balance, and like a boat to me. Just like a 441. I like the slim nimble feel, and balance of a 346, 260. I think Stihl really lost it on the added bulk. I pray they dont ruin the 660, and keep the 440 around.

Originally Posted by SawTroll

Feeling the MS261 in a shop was more than enough to confirm that my low expectations were justified, regarding how it would handle - it just felt appalling, for a 50cc saw.

Got to agree with ya there Niko, it sure feels heavier than the 260 Pro it replaced. But it runs a hell of a lot better too!

Originally Posted by SawTroll

who really needs to swap rims in the woods?

Why, nobody, of course... unless they need to.

Originally Posted by NORMZILLA44

I think some dealer's know about one make over another. Or could know little about any. But let's face it they are human like us, and probably have favorites too. I would ask himwhere he comes to the Stihl is better conclusion. I bet it is preference, just like some guy's prefer a ford or chevy. I do agree with Nikko on the 261 compared to the 346. The 260-026 would be closer in comparison I think. I picked up a 261 I got for my buddy. I never ran it, dont want to. It feels awkward, off balance, and like a boat to me. Just like a 441. I like the slim nimble feel, and balance of a 346, 260. I think Stihl really lost it on the added bulk. I pray they dont ruin the 660, and keep the 440 around.

Good post. I think brand loyalty has a lot to do with it. Not in my case except for the fact that I have more Stihl parts and bars/chains than Husky. Im sure if I ran a 346 I would love it. I do not like outboard clutches though, never have, never will. Thats what I like about the 365/372 series huskies, the inboard clutch, and they are a good running chainsaw.

Originally Posted by SawTroll

Feeling the MS261 in a shop was more than enough to confirm that my low expectations were justified, regarding how it would handle - it just felt appalling, for a 50cc saw.

Welp Troll thats you, as Springs said, his guys liked the 261 better than the 346, he said after getting the 261 no one wanted to use the 346 anymore which is why he's selling it. Point being what feels bad to you feels great to someone else which means its all a personal preferrance.

Did good didn't I,

Originally Posted by Bowtie

Those of us that actually cut wood larger than 6 inch diameter sometimes use different bar lengths and pitches of chain for different applications. Newsflash, those rim sprockets do get messed up and or wear out after a while Niko.

I would love to own a 346NE, but when Im dropping that kind of cash, Im sticking with what I know works for this Kansas boy.

That one is pretty far fetched - if a rim suddenly breakes in the wood, it was actually wore out a long time ago, and I see no reason to change the pitch in the woods.

Anyway, it is easy to do in the woods if you want to, with an outboard clutch 50 or 60cc Husky of recent production, as well as with an inboard - if you really need to do it. You just need a chisel or screwdriver of suitable size, and something suitable to hit it with.

I just don't see the point though....

Originally Posted by madhatte

Why, nobody, of course... unless they need to.

If someone does, he has totally failed in the maitenance of the saw....

Originally Posted by SawTroll

That one is pretty far fetched - if a rim suddenly breakes in the wood, it was actually wore out a long time ago, and I see no reason to change the pitch in the woods.

Anyway, it is easy to do in the woods if you want to, with an outboard clutch 50 or 60cc Husky of recent production, as well as with an inboard - if you really need to do it. You just need a chisel or screwdriver of suitable size, and something suitable to hit it with.

I just don't see the point though....

I have 6 3/8 chains for the 16" bar I am running on my 261. If I cut wood all day, all of those chains will become dull enough to warrant swapping out to be sharpened later. ( All wood that grows here has lots of crap embedded in it, including fence posts, railroad spikes, nails, rocks, etc). Any and all of those will ruin a chain and a rim sprocket. I dont think you understand what the cutting conditions are like here. They are much different than the alpine country where you live. Be thankful for that, my friend.

Originally Posted by SawTroll

If someone does, he has totally failed in the maitenance of the saw....

I take it you have never had a rim fail? I have had a few. 2 Stihl badged, and a few others. It does happen when you cut a lot of wood.

Originally Posted by SawTroll

That one is pretty far fetched - if a rim suddenly breakes in the wood, it was actually wore out a long time ago, and I see no reason to change the pitch in the woods.

Anyway, it is easy to do in the woods if you want to, with an outboard clutch 50 or 60cc Husky of recent production, as well as with an inboard - if you really need to do it. You just need a chisel or screwdriver of suitable size, and something suitable to hit it with.

I just don't see the point though....

Ummmm....We tried and tried to get the clutch off of my 346 at the GTG to swap rims, and gave up as we thought we were gonna break it. Outboard clutches suck, no matter how you look at em. Who gives two rips about the balance. Its not like im a one legged man walking a tight wire trying to smack a pinata with it.

I always take more than one saw to the woods. I don't take spare chains but a file so when I hit rocks from being a a bit of a tool @ times ,I sharpen em . I didn't mean to start big debate about brands but just found it crazy that this dealer would rather not make any sale then price me the Husqvarna I asked about FYI, never had an issue yet with outboad clutch on 288. Did finally have to change out crappy vented inboard 576 clutch for solid 372 aftermarket unit that wouldn,t plug with beach dust

Come on brother's Nikko has some good point's we all do. It is alot of preference, and also what you are used to working on. I wont not own a saw, or judge it just by the clutch. But bet your'e ahss I will on the feel. Just like a gun that is off balance, or doesn't fit. Your'e freezer will be alot less full. I just wont run a saw that doesn't feel right. Yeah the clutch can be more of a pain, but once you get the hang of it, it get's easier. They make a tool for it if you want to get real easy, and fancy. I got a snap ring plier set. Takes the clip off, first shot, and doesn't even bend it. Just preference my brother's

Originally Posted by NORMZILLA44

Come on brother's Nikko has some good point's we all do. It is alot of preference, and also what you are used to working on. I wont not own a saw, or judge it just by the clutch. But bet your'e ahss I will on the feel. Just like a gun that is off balance, or doesn't fit. Your'e freezer will be alot less full. I just wont run a saw that doesn't feel right. Yeah the clutch can be more of a pain, but once you get the hang of it, it get's easier. They make a tool for it if you want to get real easy, and fancy. I got a snap ring plier set. Takes the clip off, first shot, and doesn't even bend it. Just preference my brother's

I hear ya. A person can basically rebuild a Stihl pro saw with a t27 driver, scrench, and a couple screwdrivers. Its that easy unless you need to split the case.

I aint raggin on Husqvarna, I have ran quite a few and I like them. But its a lot of fun to debate and give trouble, lol.

Originally Posted by SawTroll

That one is pretty far fetched - if a rim suddenly breakes in the wood, it was actually wore out a long time ago, and I see no reason to change the pitch in the woods.

Anyway, it is easy to do in the woods if you want to, with an outboard clutch 50 or 60cc Husky of recent production, as well as with an inboard - if you really need to do it. You just need a chisel or screwdriver of suitable size, and something suitable to hit it with.

I just don't see the point though....

Originally Posted by wigglesworth

Ummmm....We tried and tried to get the clutch off of my 346 at the GTG to swap rims, and gave up as we thought we were gonna break it. Outboard clutches suck, no matter how you look at em. Who gives two rips about the balance. Its not like im a one legged man walking a tight wire trying to smack a pinata with it.

Dang J....I was gonna tell the same story but you done beat me to it. Outboard clutches can be a pain the the butt. I would love to see someone get the clutch off your 346 with a screwdriver and a flat rock......