The end of that log looks like it is half rotted...my dad's old Poo on would probably go through it like that also!
I tried a 600p in my quest for my first brand new saw in 30 years. Nice saw but kind of wimpy power wise compared to others I have tried in same cc range. Mastermind really brings these to a new level with his technical skills but I feel that I shouldnt have to instantly put 2-300$ into a new saw to make it run the way it should.
I realize that the husky and stihl I tried would also be greatly boosted by a woods port but they seem to have more guts to begin with. Why? Is it because they cost more? Or is the echo "detuned" to make it last longer?
I am new to these modern saws and any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for the info. I love this forum! Russ
A new in the box 60cc saw with compression increase, woods port, custom muffler, tested and tuned....... around 700.00. That's hard to beat.
I would have to agree with Mastermind. My 500p kicks butt after Randy worked it over. I didn't run it stock but the video didn't lie. In stock form, it was a dog. I did run my 600p before I sent it to Brad. The difference was night and day.
I know that spending an extra 2to3 hundred dollars to get them ported and tuned is a little crazy, but I really think this is in our future for any OPE. The EPA, and in my case CARB and the BAAQMD are doing everthing they can to kill ANY 2 stroke engine. It's just a matter of time before everyone in the states will have to deal with the same crap that we in California deal with. I hope I am wrong!!! I wouldn't wish this kind of nonsense on anyone.
Stihl 025, 032, 020AVEQ, 200T(Masterminded), 460(Snellerized),
Echo CS500P(Masterminded), CS600P(Snellerized), CST610EVL(Currently under the grinder from Mastermind)
McCulloch Pro Mac 700, Homelite Super XL Auto
2 Makita HD rentals with Bailey's BB kits
Husqvarna 266 XP
Randy, you have a good point when you look at it that way.
The salespeople I chat with make a big deal about their saws being covered for 5 years and that would go out the window with mods. Then they tell me their saws never come in for work so maybe that is a gamble I could take.
A lot to think about... and the wife says "one saw, get it right!" Oh the pressure... Russ
Yes, they have a warranty but all they have to say is "straight gassed" and then you are screwed. When it comes to new two strokes today, don't count on a warranty from anyplace. It's a crapshoot. They count on homeowners not using them enough to hit that roached piston and cylinder level, or leaving old fuel in it or whatever. Warranties are more scam than not. And a pro will void the warranty and do mods the day he gets it, so there ya go.
If you get it from a dealer, make sure they adjust it properly before it goes out the door. If they don't pull the caps and adjust, they ain't a good dealer, try elsewhere. If you get it online for much cheaper, make sure you adjust it properly, richen it up a little.
car warranties have saved my ass many times, I guess 2 stroke is a different matter. So efco and echo pushing their coverage as a selling point is a bunch of hooey?
Something I need to factor in I guess.
I don't want to start the ubiquitous " Help me pick out a saw" thread but I have a lot of questions. What started out as a 300-350$ investment is now looking like 650-700$ and I want to get it right. Back to the drawing board... Thanks, Russ
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