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  1. 05-09-2012, 01:19 PM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Professor View Post
    I agree with Fish.

    I've had a slew of Tillistons and Bings apart and 95% of them could go back together with same parts, as long as they did not get buggered up taking things apart.

    P.S these are old carbs that never had corn fuel ran in them, my runners now use 100LL
    When you went to 100 LL what if any Carb adjustment did you have to make? I have 12 or so Partners and should do somthing like that too i think.Thanks Jeff
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    Quote Originally Posted by kev1n View Post
    You should be fine just putting in new gaskets and a good cleaning on the other parts. Don't waste your money on the complete kit.
    Got a gasket set ordered, went with the 5 piece kit that has the half round gasket for $10. free shipping, thanks for the advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Professor View Post
    I agree with Fish.

    I've had a slew of Tillistons and Bings apart and 95% of them could go back together with same parts, as long as they did not get buggered up taking things apart.

    P.S these are old carbs that never had corn fuel ran in them, my runners now use 100LL
    Got a small airport next door. They used to sell 80 and 100. We used to mix them 50/50 for 90 in our dirt bikes. I think I will see if they still sell to the public. Can I assume that is ethanol free?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MISteve View Post
    Got a small airport next door. They used to sell 80 and 100. We used to mix them 50/50 for 90 in our dirt bikes. I think I will see if they still sell to the public. Can I assume that is ethanol free?
    I'm pretty sure all avgas has to be ethanol free by law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lary View Post
    When you went to 100 LL what if any Carb adjustment did you have to make? I have 12 or so Partners and should do somthing like that too i think.Thanks Jeff
    Some needed to be leaned out a bit, more so on the low (036, 038M, 066)

    Some have ran fine with no changes (028S, 020T, 056M, Br 400 blower, husky weedwacker)

    My 038S to 038M conversions always ran on 100LL. With opened up dual port mufflers, both the Tilly and Bings were close to 1 1/4 out. I'm running the saws between 500-2500' elev.

    My 026 saws were also used/rebuilt so retuned as a matter of course with 100LL mix.

    ALWAYS check things when changing carbs or mixes. Make a note of initial settings so you can quickly re-tune if you have to go back to previous mix, and record new settings.
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    Thanks I will try some
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    Quote Originally Posted by kev1n View Post
    You should be fine just putting in new gaskets and a good cleaning on the other parts. Don't waste your money on the complete kit.
    Got new gasket set. Still have same problem. Erratic idle speed. Seems ok on acceleration and sounds good in the cut.
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    Air leak?

    Are you sure you don't have an air leak someplace?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbittle View Post
    Are you sure you don't have an air leak someplace?
    I do not think so. I used the carb off my 038 Magnum and it ran pretty good.
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    True...

    Yep, that points you back to the carb, but a persistent erratic idle that won't respond to tuning changes hints at an air leak, possibly. If you can do a pressure/vacuum test, you can rule out problems with the intake boot or impulse hose, for instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSS View Post
    You can get a kit on ebay for like $10 or replace it with a tilly for $40.

    Been there done that...opt for the Tilly, it will probably save you some headache's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbittle View Post
    Yep, that points you back to the carb, but a persistent erratic idle that won't respond to tuning changes hints at an air leak, possibly. If you can do a pressure/vacuum test, you can rule out problems with the intake boot or impulse hose, for instance.
    I do not have pressure/ vacuum equipment. I did make a couple of gaskets, one to block carb and one to block exhaust. I used a long piece of tube and blew into impulse fitting on the cylinder. I sprayed dish soap/ water mix all over and the only leak was at exhaust gasket. Impulse line is new, intake boot looked pretty decent.
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    Sounds like you eliminated that possibility

    I'd feel comfortable crossing the air leak off the list at this point too. Good luck with it. If the kit didn't fix it, I might just punt and change the carburetor.
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    It does sound like an air leak somewhere. Did you fully disassemble the carb and spray carb cleaner in all the Orafices or just put in new gaskets? Does this carb do the same thing on your magnum? Did you seal up that exhaust leak and test again? Did you test the seals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kev1n View Post
    It does sound like an air leak somewhere. Did you fully disassemble the carb and spray carb cleaner in all the Orafices or just put in new gaskets? Does this carb do the same thing on your magnum? Did you seal up that exhaust leak and test again? Did you test the seals?
    I agree, it does sound like a leak. I did disassemble and spray the carb. Even soaked it in gas overnight. Magnum carb works good on the Super, Super carb is bad on both saws. Maybe I will take the carb apart one more time. On a side note, I put new rings in my Magnum, used Hondabond in place of the gasket. It is at 170 lbs comp and I did a little work on the muffler. This was about three months ago. Wow, what a difference. That saw rocks.
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