Stihl 038AV... Anygood???

**tkrd14** · 03-15-2006, 07:32 AM

Is this saw worth trying to fix? I just moved into a house with a few acres of thick woods. I was planning on buying a new chainsaw, but... I was cleaning out a shed in the back when i found a stihl 038AV. I have no idea how old it might be. It has a broken recoil. I took the recoil cover off and the spark plug out and was able to turn it over. I have also been able to determine that it has spark and compression. should i go further??? how old is it??? I know very little about chainsaws, please advise.

**retoocs555** · 03-15-2006, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by tkrd14

Is this saw worth trying to fix? I just moved into a house with a few acres of thick woods. I was planning on buying a new chainsaw, but... I was cleaning out a shed in the back when i found a stihl 038AV. I have no idea how old it might be. It has a broken recoil. I took the recoil cover off and the spark plug out and was able to turn it over. I have also been able to determine that it has spark and compression. should i go further??? how old is it??? I know very little about chainsaws, please advise.

I'd say go for it. Its a great saw.

A used 038 is worth around $200, to replace it with a comprable new saw is going to be more than double that. You got lucky to find it in a shed!

**lovetheoutdoors** · 03-15-2006, 07:54 AM

Yes i would fix the saw...its not to old considering they started making that model in 1980....you will have a good saw if it works out

**Lakeside53** · 03-15-2006, 08:22 AM

One of the best Stihl saws ever made...

Around here they go for $300+.

**Madsaw** · 03-15-2006, 08:56 AM

I sent you a email about your saw.
Bob

**davefr** · 03-15-2006, 08:59 AM

038's are classics in the Stihl lineup. They weigh about as much as 066's but they are very dependable and have gobs or torque.

Parts are easy to find. (Plenty of aftermarket jugs and Ebay parts).

**Lawn Masters** · 03-15-2006, 03:16 PM

Speaking from experience, I say fix er up, and keep er. I owned one that was rather nice. mine was an 038 MAG II saw, which is 73CCs or so, and VERY high in the torque dept. heavy but tough and reliable saw.

**THALL10326** · 03-15-2006, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by tkrd14

Is this saw worth trying to fix? I just moved into a house with a few acres of thick woods. I was planning on buying a new chainsaw, but... I was cleaning out a shed in the back when i found a stihl 038AV. I have no idea how old it might be. It has a broken recoil. I took the recoil cover off and the spark plug out and was able to turn it over. I have also been able to determine that it has spark and compression. should i go further??? how old is it??? I know very little about chainsaws, please advise.

Sounds like you found a goodie hiding in the shed. If I were you I'd take the muffler completely off and take a good look at the piston through the exhaust port, that hole behind the muffler where you can look into the cylinder. Turn the flywheel and watch the piston come to the top of the cylinder. Look at the side of the piston real good for any bad scratching or scuff marks. If you see a nice shiny piston your in business. If you see scratching and scuffing all over the side of the piston your looking at around 200 plus for a new piston and cylinder. Me, I would repair it regardless. The 038 is a old beast of a saw. Its nothing to see 038's come in the shop 15 plus years old and still running like a champ only needing minor odds and ends like a pull rope or a sprocket. Its one of very few Stihl's you can actually push alittle bit through the cut, lots of torque in that thing. Fix her up and enjoy....

**tkrd14** · 03-16-2006, 08:28 AM

ok... i got the recoil working... looked inside, everything is clean and smooth. I can get it to fire when i spray starting fluid into the carb, but it won't pull gas from the tank. the fuel line is clear (in color) and unobstructed. there is no fuel filter. looks like it is not factory workmanship. does this sound like a carb problem?

**MikeInParadise** · 03-16-2006, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by tkrd14

ok... i got the recoil working... looked inside, everything is clean and smooth. I can get it to fire when i spray starting fluid into the carb, but it won't pull gas from the tank. the fuel line is clear (in color) and unobstructed. there is no fuel filter. looks like it is not factory workmanship. does this sound like a carb problem?

Seeing as the fuel lines look good I would take apart the carb and put in a carb kit.

Sounds like like you might get a good saw for yourself without a lot of $$$.

**TimberPig** · 03-16-2006, 09:15 AM

You should also replace the missing fuel filter before running it, to keep junk out of that freshly rebuilt carb. Both of these parts can be had from a Stihl dealer, or possibly other saw shops. Baileys should also be able to supply you with what you need.

**Diesel JD** · 03-16-2006, 07:54 PM

Hopefully you are a decent wrench on the carb, they can be a real pita to rebuild for the inexperienced. As Andy can tell you, I rebuilt one completely wrong on an 025. Also make sure you get the right carb kit and get teh carb adjusted as per the manual before firing it up,a nd then adjust from there.

**Husky nut** · 03-16-2006, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by tkrd14

ok... i got the recoil working... looked inside, everything is clean and smooth. I can get it to fire when i spray starting fluid into the carb, but it won't pull gas from the tank. the fuel line is clear (in color) and unobstructed. there is no fuel filter. looks like it is not factory workmanship. does this sound like a carb problem?

Another small word of advice...DON'T use starting fluid...drop alittle mixed gas in the carb

**Lakeside53** · 03-16-2006, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by tkrd14

ok... i got the recoil working... looked inside, everything is clean and smooth. I can get it to fire when i spray starting fluid into the carb, but it won't pull gas from the tank. the fuel line is clear (in color) and unobstructed. there is no fuel filter. looks like it is not factory workmanship. does this sound like a carb problem?

If there is no fuel filter, you definitely have a carb problem.... Don't use starting fluid - you'll cook the piston/cylinder/ whatever.. Use mix.

It could also be impulse line, crank case seals, boot, etc.. but I'd bet on the carb... put a stihl fuel filter back on the hose after you clean out the carb and rebuild it.

It likely has a Bing carb. GREAT carb but incredibly expensive full kit from Stihl (nearly $50). Get an aftermarket kit ($6-12). It won't come with a needle (just use a big Walbro needle), and no metering arm, so don't mess up the one in the carb.

**tkrd14** · 03-17-2006, 07:37 AM

Hay Everyone,
Thanks for the help. I got it running! it is a beast. Seams like it will run circles around my dad's Poulan that i normally use (i think it is 40cc).

...ahead of you on the fuel filter.
...i won't use starting fluid anymore.
...it has a tillotson carb. is that odd? the guy at the dealership was surprised
about that too.
...it says Farm Boss on it.

recoil rope $.50, carb kit $15.76, fuel filter $5.49, gas/oil $to much$,
free advise from people who know what they are talking about $0
resurrecting a classic for less than $25... Priceless! for everything else....