Thread: 460 vs 7900

Originally Posted by ciscoguy01

How can you guys even be comparing the 372 to the 7900 or the 460? The 460 is at 6hp and the 7900 is at 6.3 while the 372 is at a mere 5.5hp. That's more like a 440 range. It's not fair to compare a saw that much smaller to ones with almost 1 full hp more than that little guy. The husky guys in here can say what they will about how fast their little 372's are, but fact of the matter, slap a 28" bar on it and go to work on some big hardwood and it'll puke and burn up, or you'll have to hold up on it the entire time cutting so it doesn't die out in the bigger hardwood. For your answer, the 7900 is comparable to the MS650, with only .2hp difference, this is by spec ONLY. The 372 is down with the 440/441, although the stihl will eat it up in the bigger wood. I know this for a fact because we've tried them side by side. As Stang posted in the other thread the 7900 will run on the heels of the 660, and it will no doubt. Matter of fact, if you want a comparison, compare a 390xp to a 7900, that'd be a more fair comparison. The 7900 and the 460 are no joking matter bro. The fools will tell you their stock 372's will outcut them, tell'em to break'em out side by side and like the old days, you give it to'em if they win or vice versa. Bring your 7900 and you'll have a couple free 372's in no time buddy. 372's are a good saw, don't get me wrong, but they won't cut with the big boys...

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Dude we were talking about all out woods ported 372 in small wood racing. Stock 7900 all day for the big wood. 460 not even in my thoughts.
Also better ask stang why he races modded 372's in the small wood too. not the 7900's.

Originally Posted by ciscoguy01

How can you guys even be comparing the 372 to the 7900 or the 460? ...

I sort of agree, but the power ratings and ccs don't tell the whole story......

...as an exemple, in smaller wood it is very important how the saw keep the torque up above max power rpms, and that vary a lot.....

Originally Posted by Cut4fun

Dude we were talking about all out woods ported 372 in small wood racing. Stock 7900 all day for the big wood. 460 not even in my thoughts.
Also better ask stang why he races modded 372's in the small wood too. not the 7900's.

First off, the 046/460 is a good saw. There is nothing wrong with the 460, but I feel that the 7900 is a better, more powerful saw. The 7900 is my go to saw in the woods. It is a great saw with a ton of power, probably more powerful/versatile than the 372...


Now the 372's, I love them, probably my first favorite saw. They mod a whole lot better than a 7900, from what i have been told. Although, CUT4fun has a mean running 7900 that is very fast.

There is a ton of potential in the 371/372/375 series cylinders. My 375xp was modded by Woodsjunkie and it will smoke a stock 660/066 IN SMALL WOOD. It is not meant to go to the woods with a 36" bar, although the 372 is very capable of running longer bars with a propper woods port. Mine is borderline woods saw, and I choose not to take it to the woods and hurt it. It is more of a play toy, lol.

Stock worksaw, the 7900 is my favorite. it is an unbelievable saw that only people that own them know how awesome they really are. The 460 and 372 are really great saws too, but i prefered a mild woods port 372 over a 460 before I ever had a 7900.

Clear as mud? Thought so. They are all great saws in their own right, people that like to push hard on the saw will probably prefer the 7900, 460 then the 372 in that order, but if you let them do the work, the 7900 and 372 are quicker in stock form, from my experience.

still no one is tackling the idea of a full moded 460 big bore setup, against the others, weight plus power = 7900? cost though

Originally Posted by jefeVTtreeman

still no one is tackling the idea of a full moded 460 big bore setup, against the others, weight plus power = 7900? cost though

I built a nice BB046 that Sawinredneck has. That saw runs really well for a woods saw. it isn't the fastest saw on the face of the earth, but it was built to be a worksaw and run 28-32" bar in hardwoods. I hear Dean at WHS builds a mean BB460 too.

It all depends what you want to do with it...You already have a 7900, and buying a new 460 to have a BB kit installed seems like a lot of extra money to me.

I never compared times to the BB046 and the 7900, but like I said, it all depends what you want to do with them. lol

freakingstang i think the thing a like the most about the 7900 is when you fisrt start it and give it a burp or two the power that is related back through the saw is awesome, much better than my 650.

Almost finished my tranny conversion in the 70 fastback, now thats power

Originally Posted by jefeVTtreeman

freakingstang i think the thing a like the most about the 7900 is when you fisrt start it and give it a burp or two the power that is related back through the saw is awesome, much better than my 650.

Almost finished my tranny conversion in the 70 fastback, now thats power

70 Fastback...You Dawg. I have a hard on for a 69 or 70. Someday. it is only money, right? lol. Need to finish my projects before I get another one. My job takes up a ton of time. I travel quite a bit.

What tranny conversion? What motor? I had an EFI 5.0L and T-5 in my 66 about 6 years ago. If I ever get it back together, I would like to do a 408 stroker with a 6 speed. EFI, of coarse.....

Originally Posted by Freakingstang

I built a nice BB046 that Sawinredneck has. That saw runs really well for a woods saw. it isn't the fastest saw on the face of the earth, but it was built to be a worksaw and run 28-32" bar in hardwoods. I hear Dean at WHS builds a mean BB460 too.

It all depends what you want to do with it...You already have a 7900, and buying a new 460 to have a BB kit installed seems like a lot of extra money to me.

I never compared times to the BB046 and the 7900, but like I said, it all depends what you want to do with them. lol

And work it does!!! It has no problem running the 32" in Oak, and Cottonwood is a joke.
That saw to a stock 7900 isnt a fair comparison, it wasn't built for the RPM but tourqe, it will outcut anything I have owned though. But it is larger and has considerble more power than the 7900. All things being equal, if I were to buy a new saw of that size and run it as is, it would be a 7900. If I were to buy a new saw of that size to mod, I would buy a 460 and do it all over again!! I have nothing against the 7900, but it seems to me that it comes from the factory givving all it has, leaving neglible gains from mods. The 372 is a great saw, but even with the BB kit, I doubt it would pull like the 046 in hardwoods.
I really think the "BIG BOYS" need to watch their backs, their saws are getting heavier and loosing power, while the Dolmars are getting lighter and gaining power!!! That and I have only heard two complaints about the Dolmars!!! Ain't that some food for thought?
Andy

oh your going to love this

418 stroker from (the engine factory 512hp)
5speed tremec (the 6speed was not recommended)
rack and pinion power steering
4way disc brakes
to much money into her to count anymore




blew up my 428cj two years ago with 3speed auto. I work at a custom shop here in VT. My boss is the chevy man i'm the ford guy. He thinks im crazy to talk on a chainsaw forum but his favorite saw is made by dewalt!

Originally Posted by jefeVTtreeman

oh your going to love this

418 stroker from (the engine factory 512hp)
5speed tremec (the 6speed was not recommended)
rack and pinion power steering
4way disc brakes
to much money into her to count anymore




blew up my 428cj two years ago with 3speed auto. I work at a custom shop here in VT. My boss is the chevy man i'm the ford guy. He thinks im crazy to talk on a chainsaw forum but his favorite saw is made by dewalt!

Sweet. The EFI 5.oL wasn't bad, with TFS heads, AFM cam, and all othe normal EFI boltons with put down 320 HP to the wheels. It wasn't too shabby. I've had 4WD on mine since 97...Granda brakes up front with the Lincoln Versailles 9" disc brake rear out back.. With 3.91's, it ran real good.

the rack and pinion has been on the wish list for a long time. You are getting me somewhat motivated to go out to the garage and stare at it for a while....lol.

My 86 GT drop top is the current project. 306 with all the goodies and a Vortech Strim. Hope to have it done by spring. This car has a ton of money in it...

3.91 wow good on gas, locker? spool? building mine to have fun in the hills up here along with the straightaways, theres a 68 camero rs ss up here that needs an ass whooping. we are building my bosses 69 nova rs too he's running 454 maybe with a blower setup (hasn't made up mind) wants it to be a sleeper stock looking bullit. for fun on the side we are working on a jetta v8 swap, thats to have fun with the 18 year old hot shots around town.

Originally Posted by jefeVTtreeman

3.91 wow good on gas, locker? spool? building mine to have fun in the hills up here along with the straightaways, theres a 68 camero rs ss up here that needs an ass whooping. we are building my bosses 69 nova rs too he's running 454 maybe with a blower setup (hasn't made up mind) wants it to be a sleeper stock looking bullit. for fun on the side we are working on a jetta v8 swap, thats to have fun with the 18 year old hot shots around town.

3.91's with a Detroit. Good setup, and with the gearing in the T-5 (cobra spec'd) it made for a fun cruiser and it got up out of its own way pretty good. It got decent milelage for a modded V8, but most of that was due to the EFI setup. After having a couple EFI cars that were quick, I'll probably never go back to Carb, unless I build an all out race car, or I aquire a mint 68 Shelby GT500..lol. I never ran the 66 at the track with that setup, but the same motor with different heads (iron GT-40's) went 12.30's in my full weight 89 with 3.55's.

Wow, V8 in a Jetta, that would be cool. Buddy has a Volvo wagon with a stock 302 (5.0L) and it is pretty fun for screwing with the yound punks. One day, i want to build a Chevette with a BB in it. My first car was a crapvette and I think it would be cool to show up some of these import kids. What ever happened to American made muscle? I'm not a fan of import tampons....

i know where a great 68 fast back with a 429 in it is if you know anyone. the guy had it when he was a kid but it sits back of his house been there for some time but we check on it from time to time. no rot but she only has a few more years before shes starts. he wants 4500 for the car which way to high thats why we are still waiting but i think he would take a lot less for cash. everyone i know has there money rapped up in other projects so she sits.

Originally Posted by ciscoguy01

How can you guys even be comparing the 372 to the 7900 or the 460? The 460 is at 6hp and the 7900 is at 6.3 while the 372 is at a mere 5.5hp. That's more like a 440 range. It's not fair to compare a saw that much smaller to ones with almost 1 full hp more than that little guy. The husky guys in here can say what they will about how fast their little 372's are, but fact of the matter, slap a 28" bar on it and go to work on some big hardwood and it'll puke and burn up, or you'll have to hold up on it the entire time cutting so it doesn't die out in the bigger hardwood. For your answer, the 7900 is comparable to the MS650, with only .2hp difference, this is by spec ONLY. The 372 is down with the 440/441, although the stihl will eat it up in the bigger wood. I know this for a fact because we've tried them side by side. As Stang posted in the other thread the 7900 will run on the heels of the 660, and it will no doubt. Matter of fact, if you want a comparison, compare a 390xp to a 7900, that'd be a more fair comparison. The 7900 and the 460 are no joking matter bro. The fools will tell you their stock 372's will outcut them, tell'em to break'em out side by side and like the old days, you give it to'em if they win or vice versa. Bring your 7900 and you'll have a couple free 372's in no time buddy. 372's are a good saw, don't get me wrong, but they won't cut with the big boys...

My name is Dude and I endorse this message...

DUDE!

The 7900 takes the cake over a 385xp, so the 390 might be close.

The 372 walks all over the 440, that is why it is compared to the 460 more often than not. The 440 is a nice light saw, but the 372 is a screamer. Who runs a 28" on a stock 046/460 in hardwoods? not me, hell my 7900 only wears a 24", but it will handle at least a 28".

I run 20" on my 372 and 046. I like the 372 better. I don't push on the saw, I let the saw do the work. People that like to push will like the 460 and 7900 becuase they are more forgiving, but the 372 is faster in resonable sized wood.

I like my 372's. Was my favorite saw for a long time....until the 7900 came into the picture... I ran a 28" on it a couple of times, at it did just fine. It wasn't the fastest thing in the world, but it worked for what I needed when it was the biggest saw I had.



looks like I need to make a couple stock saw videos in moderate and bi wood with the three saws (046, 372 and 7900). I just need to put a stock jug on my 046 for the vids. Maybe I'll get to that next week when i have time off of work.

Later

Freak

I would be very interested in that video.