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  1. 01-18-2009, 07:38 PM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Javelin View Post
    Rumor has it Shindaiwa is coming out with a 60cc saw! I wonder with the joint venture between Echo and Shindaiwa if the new CS-600 echo will be in the Shindaiwa line!
    the 600 might have its roots in a shinny design. that would explain why it looks so different from the rest of the echo line.
    600 = promising!
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  2. 01-18-2009, 07:44 PM #17
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    You know I am kind of liking that Idea! a shared design between two respected companies to produce what looks to be a very promising product!
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  3. 01-18-2009, 10:02 PM #18
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    Hi Javelin,
    >>Establishment of Yamabiko Corporation
    Kioritz Corporation, Tokyo, Japan and Shindaiwa Corporation, Hiroshima, Japan established a joint hlding company "Yamabiko Corporation" on December 1st, 2008 by means of transfer of stocks of both companies.
    Consequently, both Kioritz Corporation and shindaiwa Corporation have become wholly-owned subsidiaries of Yamabiko Corporation.<<

    I like the Echo saws I have, one of which is a 520. Once you richen the engines up they run great.

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    The CS-600 weighs in at 13lbs claimed by Echo. I have always liked their trimmers but wonder why they choose not to advertise horse power. Are they afraid of lower numbers than the competition?
    13lbs for 59.8 cc CS-600 vs. 13.6lbs for Dolmars 79cc PS-7900

    All I can say is Echos CS-600 better be one heck of a saw when its only 9.6 ounces less than the 7900 Dolmar.
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  5. 01-18-2009, 11:20 PM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Gordon View Post
    The CS-600 weighs in at 13lbs claimed by Echo. I have always liked their trimmers but wonder why they choose not to advertise horse power. Are they afraid of lower numbers than the competition?
    13lbs for 59.8 cc CS-600 vs. 13.6lbs for Dolmars 79cc PS-7900

    All I can say is Echos CS-600 better be one heck of a saw when its only 9.6 ounces less than the 7900 Dolmar.
    That's a very good point that you bring up. 600 echo looks great but I would wonder too about the hp. the warranty is great but who wants to always bring a saw back to be fixed!!! I want to know the price and the HP. how can we make a good choice without the info?? I would say 7900 for weight to HP and they still our very fair on the $$$$. We need more information to make a good choice. thanks Bill
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  6. 01-19-2009, 02:40 AM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Gordon View Post
    The CS-600 weighs in at 13lb’s claimed by Echo. I have always liked their trimmers but wonder why they choose not to advertise horse power. Are they afraid of lower numbers than the competition?
    13lb’s for 59.8 cc CS-600 vs. 13.6lb’s for Dolmars 79cc PS-7900

    All I can say is Echo’s CS-600 better be one heck of a saw when its only 9.6 ounces less than the 7900 Dolmar.
    Back to the numbers BS, when someone can explain why a Stihl MS260 is 3.2 hp and a MS290 (every one I've run has been a dog, maybe they all had 3/8 chain) is 3.8 hp I might believe published numbers a little. Stihl or husky doesn't have a saw that compares to the 7900 either, just Solo. Steve
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  7. 01-19-2009, 03:08 AM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by volks-man View Post
    send me the 600.
    send me the 1201 too if you like. i have just the thing to test it (48" oak).

    edit: if the 530 is in the same family as the cs-440 then they can keep it. i'd also bet dollars to donuts that the 600 will be a small bore 680 and the 680 merely a freshened 670. not an all new saw.
    The Echo CS440 is a well built saw that runs like a top, no it won't cut with a 346xp but it's not bad with a muffler mod, the carb tuned RIGHT and a good chain, my CS440 (45cc) cuts real close to my stock Rancher 55 (53CC). Steve
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  8. 01-19-2009, 04:47 AM #23
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    I muffler modded one of our CS-510's a few weeks ago. Big wake up call for that saw. It's now just a tad faster than our Husky 55, but the 55's chain isn't nearly as good as the CS-510's. With a good chain they would be just about dead even.

    We are still waiting for our CS-6700 to return. I sent it to an Echo technician, who is rebuilding the shortblock for us. We're going to use it as a project saw, testing it's performance in all areas, stock, muffler modded, then with some porting, etc.

    We had a CS-440 in our line-up at one point, it was stolen from a friend of mine who had borrowed it for a couple of small jobs. It was OK, but not nearly as strong unmodded as a stock CS-510, at least with an 18" bar. It was much happier with a 16" bar.

    I'm wondering about Echo's 60cc entry. The CS-6700 is a pretty heavy saw, all metal case, tank, etc, downsizing it to 60cc would make for one HEAVY saw!.......Cliff
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  9. 01-19-2009, 05:40 AM #24
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    CLIFF look at the pics of the new CS600 it is a diffrent saw in build than the 670 is!
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  10. 01-19-2009, 05:56 AM #25
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    About the 1201 it looks like it's design in the early 70's and it looks like there's no kickback handle infront of the bar. I'm I wrong??

    Edit: And why don't they list HP on each saw on the site
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  11. 01-19-2009, 06:17 AM #26
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    I dont recall Echo publishing HP numbers on anything, but it didnt keep me from buying their trimmers. I really like their balance and low vibes,mine have more than paid for themselves.
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    Statement from ECHO.

    Horse power is not the best way to rate a 2 stroke engines power. When comparing the performance of two-stroke engines, going by horsepower is not really an accurate way to determine the performance capabilities of a unit. The reason for this, is that there are no industry standards set for rating the horsepower of a two-stroke engine. Due to the fact that there are no set standards, this allows too may variables to come into play allowing for possibly an incorrect or misleading horsepower rating. ECHO does not publish horse power ratings.
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  13. 01-19-2009, 11:23 AM #28
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    Well horsepower/kw is how the rest of the world does it, Echo should do the same, but I would imagine the reason they dont is because their lacking in that department compared to the competition.
    Since Echo knows the best unit of measurement for a two-stroke engine, they should report the specs on how much energy their product produces. jmho
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Gordon View Post
    Well horsepower/kw is how the rest of the world does it, Echo should do the same, but I would imagine the reason they don’t is because their lacking in that department compared to the competition.
    Since Echo knows the best unit of measurement for a two-stroke engine, they should report the spec’s on how much energy their product produces. jmho
    They have kw numbers over on uk sites not that they mean anything, it's how a saw cuts that counts not some inflated numbers. Steve
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    I really like the look of that 1201!!. It has really old school lines.
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