Thread: Lanyard Knots/Thank you OSHA

Hello All,
I was up about 40 feet in a tree this weekend cleaning out some deadwood. I tied in with my climbing line, and moved about the tree to clean some of it out. I made a few cuts without incident and then positioned myself to make another. Following general safety practice I wrapped my lanyard around the tree so that I would be tied into two places when running the saw. I started the saw and was slightly sidetracked by something. Much to my chagrin and stupidity I wasn't paying attention as the saw came across my lanyard, and cut about halfway thru it. Luckily nothing serious happened, and even if I had cut all the way thru I would've been okay thanks to my climbing line. It was just a reminder to me that these safety precautions are a good thing to have around as we are all human and prone to make mistakes.

Anyway, so now I am stuck with a lanyard that has a nice gash in it and I don't want to climb with it. I was hoping to make a lanyard out of some climbing line and the snaps on my currently gashed lanyard. I was just wondering what you guys use for knots to attach your lanyard lines to the snaps. There are probably several that would work, I'm just looking for ones that won't be too bulky...I suppose the best would be to braid/weave the rope but I haven't had any experience doing that.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Rob

Splicing, not knots.

Ditto on what Rocky said...

Originally posted by RockyJSquirrel
Once tied, dressed and set it is very difficult to untie so it is typically not tied into a closed eye unless it is permanent.

There not hard to take apart, just take the carbiner off and pull down. I do it on tress cords I've climbed on for weeks.

BTW I still call it a fishermans knot.

Er... John I think that you and Brian just talked right past one another. Brian was saying that you can take a Scaffold knotted loop off of a 'biner okay. Loosening the actual knot (as opposed to merely opening the loop is more difficult. If the knot has been in place for weeks then it shouldn't be untied and retied(I'm talking about completely untied as opposed to slipping a 'biner out of the loop and back in.) due to the possibility of significant strength losses in cordage that has had its fibers stressed in hard bends for long periods. The knots don't weaken- the problem lies in the outer fibers in the bends taking a set and the then untied rope is "unbalanced" the longer fibers take all of initial loads rather than sharing it through the cordage's cross section. Breaking strength drops because the rope is predisposed to a progressive fiber failure at the former knot location.

Well Bri, I was rambling on my own hook after the third sentence. But you knew all that stuff-and so does JPS. I should have started a new paragraph to show that I was just running my mouth...er fingers.