Thread: Saddle disqualification at ITCC

hello ,
I have heard that one of the Masters challenge paticipants was not allowed to complete his climb due to the lack of daylight. I was wondering how many contestants you had and what time in the morning did you begin. Also did you not compete at all because of the saddle issue. If what you say is true about the other contestants b-fly being modified but being allowed I would certainly file a written protest with your TCC chairperson. Sounds as though the whole shootin match needs to be looked at and some questions answered.

In regard to the amount of total finalist there were originally going to be 5, then that was cut to 4, by the time it got to be the forth guys turn they almost didn't let him climb at all, and then gave him last when they called him out of the tree prematurally, he was having a decent climb even in the dark. But timing wise originally all climbers were sopposed to arive by 7:30, and things should have started by 8, I arrived at 6:40, at that time hardly anyone had arrived and the buckets didn't show up till about 7:15 to begin the completion of setting up the stations. Anyhow the whole thing fell a little behind I would guess it was closer to nine before any competing actually got going.
In regard to who i should file a complaint to, i have no idea b/c everyone on the Arizona tree council was there the night of inspections, and the one person i have been suggested to contact was Jim Skiera, well he was there as well, I wonder if it is a lost cause ?

So did you compete and how many competetors started out in the morning. If this was a ISA TCC event it should have had a chairperson. This person would be the one to make your initial protest to. I would copy your protest to Jim skiera at the ISA office as well as Scott Prophett the head judge of the International Tree Climbing Championships. They can get your feelings to the Rules committee. Its obviously too late to change what happened at your event but you have the oppourtunity to change things for the future of your event. Feel free to e-mail me off site if you need some more help.

yeah, i sure did compete. I ended up borrowing a saddle from Bishop co. A Glide was as close as they had to what i was used to so it had to do, although it turned out to be nothing like a b/fly at all. Thanks for everyone's help w/ this issue, i'm going to get in contact w/ the right people and hopefully make some kind of difference in the future.

I JUST RECENTLY MODIFIED MY BF AND FOUND IT TO BE LOADS EASIER TO TURN SIDE TO SIDE IN. I PUT SOME YELLOW AND BLACK PRUSSIK CORD ACROSS THE BRIDGE AND BUTCHERED ME BUCKINGHAM CAMBIUM SAVER. PUT THE BIG RING ON NEW BRIDGE AND SLIDES ALMOST FRICTIONLESS, PUKKA. ANY VIEWS ON THIS MOD?

Do you then clip a carabiner to the ring? If so, why not skip the ring?

Hey Pruner. Welcome to AS!


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Carl

thanx i will remember that, i did try the carabiner on the rope instead of the ring but the ring slides nicer and puts the carabiner in a nicer position for me. anyhows, without the ring it would be exactly the same as using the webbing, therefore pointless mod!!

What about a micro pulley, like on glides, using a spiced rope for a bridge. That would be within 10% from complete frictionless. Slick as snot.


Carl

already tried that but it puts the carabiner in the same position as running it on the webbing alone. kind of sideways looking at the spine of the biner, therfore putting a quarter twist in the rope at all times.

In Sean Larkin's "Sneak Preview", if I remember correctly Sherrill will be carrying a new micro that has a swivel to correct that.

Carl?

the carabiner is getting further and further away though, my arms are only so long and my blakes is the right length for comfortable working

Originally posted by PRUNER 1
already tried that but it puts the carabiner in the same position as running it on the webbing alone. kind of sideways looking at the spine of the biner, therfore putting a quarter twist in the rope at all times.

I am guessin that you work DbRt, not SRT. Can you really tell when there is a 1/4 a twist? I am just askin, not bustin yours or anything. If you dont like the twist, but like the pulley, then you could get a 90 degree twist biner.


Just a thought. I work SRT


Carl

i use the petzl william ball lock biners and they are easier to use onehanded if side on , thats why i dont like the twist. cheers to ya yes i do do dbrt, i dont use distel but used to and found in most cases it was a pita. blakes a little slower but easier to get on with, and you only need one biner in the ring. anyway i unfortunately work for local authority so no real time restraints

What ever happened with the whole ansi and ce rating of the butterfly? When will they get that ironed out. I'm not just talking about the butterfly. Just because you are from a different country you may go by CE standards? Hell I would have to say we are all originally from another country unless your native american. Could someone give up their citizenship and then be allowed to climb on something with the 22kn rating? How about the use of the buckingham friction saver? Tell me how this friction save meets the 4:1 bend ratio for a climbing line. I guess if Ken Palmer had his hands in Komet pockets it would be different?