thanks guys, I am listening to him skype right now! The things they talk about! I dunno, its hard, but what you guys just described is exactly what I am dealing with right now. Was told, after the fact, that others have done this for him before and he stole from them or took great liberty's with what they allowed him to do(ran up a 1500 phone bill) Hope to god he don't try that here. He is not interested in learning anything, I have had him out and he does good with the small stuff, dragging brush, raking and such, try to explain anything in detail and he doesn't pay attention, as when told to do it, I have to explain it all over again, stayed out all night the other night. So still working out the bugs and trying to determine what is in that brain. He is literally a 14 y/o in mind.