Thread: Climbing saddles

i found the ProMaster for $239 w/leg straps from www.commercialcutters.com The saddle is in their mail order catalogue, doesn't seem as though they have it listed online.

Thanks for the link Ryan! I ordered a catalog.

Thanks for the input Dan. Brian sure is making his way all around the east coast isn't he. Crazy fool! I had a great time climbing w/ him and monkeypuzzle. Learned a lot too!

Maybe I can figure out where to try on a butterfly. I'm still taking my time shopping for a saddle. I need to deny my usual impulsive buying habbits on this one!

I know a number of guys who have been on a b-fly for 2-3 years.

The front strap is one of the firs things people will modify. For some it is too short, or too long. others dont like is flat webbing. Most will cut it off and put in a rope. I've seen a few guys with two ropes.

Tom had a metal bar on a swivle for a while.

I think Fresco should have a part of their website shoing all the different ways guys have modifed their B-fly

I don't have any trouble with the yellow strap. After trying a few differnt ways to clip into it, I settled on Kong HMS' Biners. The large uniform shape seems to work/wear well. I had a little trouble with the leg straps loosening, but once I had it set the way I like it, a little electrical tape behind the buckles help stop the creeping, and I don't have the extra strap length snaking out (I can't bring myself to cut into something I paid that much for, even if it's just to shorten up a too long strap. Maybe part of why I haven't modified mine).

The extra mobility of the sliding d hasn't made a noticible difference in my climbing, but my back sure is pleased. Not near as much twist and strain put into it.

If I had to pick something to complain about with the Butterfly, it would be that the two side d's fold in and lay flat against the strap. Because of their design, they don't swing free like the ones I was used to.

I should also say that I don't climb but a fraction as much as a lot of you guys so things like equipment wear and productivity will differ from what you would expect to see.

If I had to buy a saddle today, I'd make the same choice. Komet Butterfly.

Louie Hampton

My yellow strap just plain wore out, took about 8 months. The rest of the saddle is like new. I tied a piece of Ultra-tech to each ring with a double fisherman's knot, which allowed for easy adjusting to the perfect length, and the problem was solved.

The d rings do tend to fold back, seems like every time I go to use one, it's in the back position. Still better than the floppy ones, IMO. I am thinking about useing some elastic to keep them in the forward position, so when it is knocked back, it would pop back forward. Anyone already do this?

I heard jamming some electric tape around the bar next to the straps will keep them from folding flat. Think soemone put a tiewrap in there too.

I use tie wraps to keep from searching for the D.
The red lines in the attachment indicate the ties.

I finally bought a new saddle. It's the Arbormaster Pro Versatile from Sherrill. It has the option of using floating D's or just clipping in to the top of the roller strap. I preordered it w/ leg straps instead of the bosun seat. Did some more play climbing this weekend and like it. I didn't feel too comfortable on the sliding D, but the sewn loop attachments feel good to me. I'll play w/ the sliding D some more and it should get more familiar to me to feel the anchor roll.

My leg straps do seem to cramp my masculinity. Would loosening the straps help keep them on the back of my thigh instead of riding up?

Maybe the black nylon seat straps at the back are too tight?

I have found that boxer shorts are not for climbing. The whitey tighties help keep your package safe and snugg. Once you get the leg straps to your liking you will be all set.

The straps at the back are left loose on my rig.

Originally posted by monkeypuzzle
The straps at the back are left loose on my rig.

Yeah man, I noticed that your leg straps hang pretty loose. I guess I could wear my padded mountain bike shorts instead of my boxers and loosen the legstraps up a few inches.

Mike just likes the way his leg straps frame out his 'package'. Chicks dig it too.

I wasn't real impressed with the Buckingham rep at TCI, his mind seemed to be everywhere but on his products.
I asked about the floppy D's on the pro saddle and he said it wasn't a problem for arbos because they clipped in as opposed to clipping out on the D's.
Is "clipping inwards" the norm here for most of you?