MS461 demo

[Tree Sling'r]

So some perks about living and working out here is that we get to demo much of the new Stihl products and report back to our Stihl rep (Chuck) from VA. The latest was the MS461.
I ran it a couple of days (It really pained me to run a stock saw), and for all 460 fans the newer model won't let you down. The low end is impressive even in stock form. Although it looks a bit different, all but 9 parts are the same. We gave the saw back the other day, the rep will take it back to the factory, with our feedback as well as others and saw performance, changes may be made. Anyway here are some pics.

later, Jasha.

 

[bcorradi]

Very cool..thanks for the update and the review.

 

[DarkTimber]

Good looking saw dosen't look too much diffrent than a 460

 

[Andyshine77]

Just a guess here, but it looks like they just put a strato top end on a 460. Is it a strato saw? Spring AV?

Thanks for posting Jasha.

 

[sgrizz]

Thanks treeslingr for shareing this also. I had a 460 ( used) awhile ago and didnt like the vibes on it. I am looking foward to more information on this 461 .

 

[ChrisF]

I need one of those.

 

[SawTroll]

Either they have learned something from Husky and the 372xpXT, or this is a :msp_laugh::msp_laugh:


:confused2:

 

[ChrisF]

they have learned something from Husky and the 372xpXT

I was thinking something like that as well.

Not a bad thing though, making good stuff better is always preferable to trying to reinvent the wheel.

(Also, hey there in the cold North!)

 

[wigglesworth]

I like it.

 

[STIHLTHEDEERE]

Either they have learned something from Husky and the 372xpXT, or this is a :msp_laugh::msp_laugh:


:confused2:

you been drinking your bath water again troll??????? go ahead tell us how it is 3 ounce heavier,it doesn't balance sideways,they stole this whole design from husky.........on&on&on&on. if you actually ran these saws a tenth of the time that you read the specs off to us,your b.s. might mean something. it is a stihl,and it will outsell any husky. we like stihl here,stihl doesn't build sewing machines,they dont buy out 15 other junk companies to get 1 good line,they dont build 15 other products,plus ope. they build saws,the best in the world,thats why they are #1,and always will be #1. now,go out and buy the best saw money can buy,and it will put a smile on your face every time you run it. you won't have to read specs any more,you will finally have some real world experience........hehehehehe just messing w/ya!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[STIHLTHEDEERE]

filter looks like an improvement,maybe after struggling with the 441 so much they wont do a complete redesign...........

 

[forestryworks]

Nice, thanks for sharing Jasha.

 

[MS460WOODCHUCK]

Best looking strato saw that I've seen so far! Just happens to be in line with the best saw ever made IMO!:msp_love:

 

[mrgoodkat]

I asked my dealer today about the 461. He said as far as he knew it would be prolly 2 years at the absolute most nefore it hits the market. I showed him the pics on my phone and we were both happy that they didnt change the shape of the case like they did from the 440 to 441. Hopefully they can slim down the weight of their strato design. Can't wait to see if any hp is gained. Great pics btw

 

[mikefunaro]

Is it still the rubber mount AV or did they go spring with it?

 

[epicklein22]

Is it still the rubber mount AV or did they go spring with it?

That is my biggest question. There is no doubt that springs are the wave of the future.

Maybe they could retrofit springs to fit the case, instead of the current rubber mounts? Similar setup to a dolmar 7900 should be attainable. It would neat if they worked on the 460 as well.:biggrin:

 

[mikefunaro]

That is my biggest question. There is no doubt that springs are the wave of the future.

Maybe they could retrofit springs to fit the case, instead of the current rubber mounts? Similar setup to a dolmar 7900 should be attainable. It would neat if they worked on the 460 as well.:biggrin:

Yeah I think it would be somewhat difficult to get the amount of spring travel they typically want on the existing 460 chassis unless they sort of made some more room where they needed it.

I'm curious because lots of guys that run the stihls with rubber mounts don't complain about it, and instead ##### about the extra travel and inaccuracy they think the springs result in (I dont think that these complaints are necessarily unjustified).

The EU regs are pushing for the better antivibe, while the US regs are pushing more for better emissions it seems. They've previously been making all new models conscious to both of these needs, but maybe this will be a rubber mounted US only model?

My guess is they had this minimal change model in the works before they knew about the plans of the husky x torque. I mean, it makes sense, at least for the current timber fallers. Maybe the next generation will prefer the whole redesigned saws, but if you love your 372 or your 440/460, the closer the replacement is to it the better, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Oldsawnut]

OK when you say all but 9 parts are the same are you refering to the 441 or the 460? If 460 looks like they changed enough on the case that it would be hard to make it into a 460..

 

[RiverRat2]

I like it!!!!:msp_cool:

 

[Bill Becker]

Was the muffler bolted together like the 460 or welded together?