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I have had this test a few times but not by me because just like you It would be hard to not be biased and I wouldn't post videos running a saw someone else ported without talking to them first.

I happen to know a unbiased guy who has 2 or 3 661's Brad ported and one of mine,he's ran them with the same 42" bar and chain.

If I ran them it would be a biased result just the same as you so the owner of these saws said he will video them for a unbiased result.

It's very easy to make one saw win if you want it to and since you and Scott don't care for me it would stand to reason that if my saw was twice as fast it would still loose,couldn't have a jmssaws bashing thread if my saw won could we?

I hope you at least talked to Brad.
I don't care if your saws are or are not ahead of mine.
To be honest if the 661 you've worked on for 2 years wouldn't beat one that I ported in a day I'd feel sad for you.

Where's the videos from CT gtg with other people running are saws?
Why is it that your saws are only way ahead when nobody else is around?

This 661 was ahead of the 394 in CT that was very close to Julian's saw.

I had them together at the same time and there's 20 videos of them and I'm not favoring one or the other.

How can they be so close when there's people around but so far behind when there not?

Send me one of them crabby coochie saws and we will see how far ahead it is.

The thing is this Scott, posting a thread about 2 other builders saws without talking to them is a **** move and just makes you look desperate.

How many people have sent you guys saws and had them beaten but you have never sent a saw to anyone,why?

How were my saws in CT right with yours when everyone is around but so far behind now?
Come on man,I'm not stupid and you know I ain't so what is it really about?
There's a lot of my saws at every gtg
They run good too,you have ran lots of them.

You know I can build a stout saw so what is your problem? Or is that the problem?
I bet it is.
I never bashed your saws because you can build a strong saw and I've never said mine were better so it has to be you needing your ego stroked.

I still would like to meet you and talk saws,I think you would be a interesting gut to talk to and I'd say we are a lot alike
I'll get my chance to talk to you and I hope you ain't mad at me and we can have a good talk.

I think we do a lot of things very close to the same and I didn't learn from these ****ing forums,I learned over 20 years by doing it.
Sound familiar
It's just a ported saw with a popup.

Its got a different muffler on it for sure and it sounds off by a good bit but honestly none of that matters,it wouldn't matter if my or yours was 50 times stronger,they still loose.

A high exhaust short bar 394 I did was smack on his 661 with a 42" 404 in CT and a bunch of people ran both and everyone said they were about even,that 394 and this 661 were at my shop at the same time and the 661 was a good ways ahead of the 394 that was basically even with his 661 that's made to run that bar.
50 people seen it and a bunch ran both saws and there's videos of it.

It would stand to reason that the 661 he's got that I ported that's stronger than the 394 that's very close to his 661 would put the 2 saws a out even but at his place with nobody to see it gets beat bad.
How does that work exactly?
It's the most chicken **** and desperate thing I've seen.

There's 10 videos of that 661 beating the 394 that 10 people ran that day and all said it's pretty well even with his 661 but not when nobody is looking. Lol
A random saw I built for a 24" bar is right with the saw That's been built and tested forever to run that 42" bar by the best saw builder in the world and he's been working on it forever.
I guess I'd be desperate to prove it's better to but I'd have the decency to tell the guys involved.
A guy that hates me beats one of my saws at his house and posts a thread about it
I feel dirty and a lesser man for even posting.

ok then..

well here is the CT gtg. video below, times attached.

 

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I haven't been around for awhile until recently, looking for a few saws, maybe some port work.
PM'd a few trusted members because of being out a the loop. Funny how quick they were to let me know who to avoid dealing with. Some of my buddies I reached out to like stihl, some like husqvarna, but they all mentioned the same bad apples that have turned up in my absence.
Sure are a lot of threads going down the same road as this one. I don't think the friction is about porting styles.....
Sorry for the thread hijack, just had to butt in.......
Russ
 
Where are the videos from the ct gtg :confused: the one where Jms saw matched the precious unicorn and 661?
 
Unless you video you swapping chain off other saw I don't believe the videos. I didn't even watch them as I smell something and it don't smell good. Never get in between a man providing for his family. People can choose what porter they want. It's a free country. By the way might want to check the piston on that 394 it might have a smudge and hung a ring just like a certain 064. It sure sounded lean after cut. No one is immune to saw problems. So don't say that your better than anyone else. Every porter has a saw blown up, I'd bet my wallet on it. Wether it's due to a mistake or flawed part. I'm kind of tired of the child play on the forums. There are two sides to every story. The only way anyone would believe a test to be true involving other porters saws is to have a third party tester. And that kind of test is something I'd never want to be part of as its guaranteed to piss people off, and it's just downright wrong.
 
I thought that there were a lot of very good running saws at the ct gtg. every one of the saws brought to that block ran good, at least the ones I watched.

this jms saw that was sent to us seems to be a bit off, that's about all I can say.
 
Wallet full of money from selling a saw that gifted to you by people that thought you'd enjoy it?

You seem to play both sides well!
You do not know my situation, I'm suprised to see you type that Jeremy. Al and I are friends and the problem was not with Al's porting and I texted him and talked to him about the situation and he was cool with it. Let him get on here and comment and say that he is pissed at me but I bet that he don't do that. As far as playing both sides most know what side I am on but you know what I don't open my mouth and start fights on here like some as that destroys the forum. I try not say what I wouldn't say to a man's face behind there back as that is just a ******* move. It's not even about who makes a faster saw anymore as that's not the point.
 
You do not know my situation, I'm suprised to see you type that Jeremy. Al and I are friends and the problem was not with Al's porting and I texted him and talked to him about the situation and he was cool with it. Let him get on here and comment and say that he is pissed at me but I bet that he don't do that. As far as playing both sides most know what side I am on but you know what I don't open my mouth and start fights on here like some as that destroys the forum. I try not say what I wouldn't say to a man's face behind there back as that is just a ******* move. It's not even about who makes a faster saw anymore as that's not the point.

You're right..it's not about who's saw is faster.

Don't be a tulip and take sides.
 
Unless you video you swapping chain off other saw I don't believe the videos. I didn't even watch them as I smell something and it don't smell good. Never get in between a man providing for his family. People can choose what porter they want. It's a free country. By the way might want to check the piston on that 394 it might have a smudge and hung a ring just like a certain 064. It sure sounded lean after cut. No one is immune to saw problems. So don't say that your better than anyone else. Every porter has a saw blown up, I'd bet my wallet on it. Wether it's due to a mistake or flawed part. I'm kind of tired of the child play on the forums. There are two sides to every story. The only way anyone would believe a test to be true involving other porters saws is to have a third party tester. And that kind of test is something I'd never want to be part of as its guaranteed to piss people off, and it's just downright wrong.

Mason I get how you want to defend Jason, he has been generous and kind to you, but as you said, there are more sides to this than you can possibly know.
I know I don't know it all.
So to blindly defend him and talk **** to Scott, after how he treated you at my house, seems extremely disrespectful! If you have it all figured out, and think you are correct on your comments, fine. Otherwise I think an apology is in order.

Just how I see things...


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You do not know my situation, I'm suprised to see you type that Jeremy. Al and I are friends and the problem was not with Al's porting and I texted him and talked to him about the situation and he was cool with it. Let him get on here and comment and say that he is pissed at me but I bet that he don't do that. As far as playing both sides most know what side I am on but you know what I don't open my mouth and start fights on here like some as that destroys the forum. I try not say what I wouldn't say to a man's face behind there back as that is just a ******* move. It's not even about who makes a faster saw anymore as that's not the point.

Wow!
You really have no idea
You are young...
I hope one day you "get it"


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You do not know my situation, I'm suprised to see you type that Jeremy.............I try not say what I wouldn't say to a man's face behind there back as that is just a ******* move.

You're right, I typically hold my breath Mason & and don't know your "entire" story.
You know as much as anyone here, I'm not one to typically stir the sh!t pot.
The events that have unfolded in the past month or so have really made me feel ashamed to be a part the forums. Hence my limited time spent here or there lately.

Are you saying I'm talking outta place and that I wouldn't repeat this in front of you?
If so, you're right...I have A LOT more I'd like to say to you in person.
 
You're right, I typically hold my breath Mason & and don't know your "entire" story.
You know as much as anyone here, I'm not one to typically stir the sh!t pot.
The events that have unfolded in the past month or so have really made me feel ashamed to be a part the forums. Hence my limited time spent here or there lately.

Are you saying I'm talking outta place and that I wouldn't repeat this in front of you?
If so, you're right...I have A LOT more I'd like to say to you in person.
You'd **** talk in person without knowing the real story? Same for you Dan?
 
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