All that open space, why climb and limb it down? Why not rope it high and just drop each truck one by one? No offense, just wondering.
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climbhightree
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I personally hardly ever flop, even when I can.
Mostly because by piecing it out the removal is more controled, the clean up area is smaller, and often less damage to the yard.
"Kiss My Axe"
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Wayne Wilkinson
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Honestly we did think about that with a few leads but there were a lot of small trees, and bushes. While it may look like a lot of open space when your looking at the picture, looking at it in person you may not feel the same.
Ida put it on the ground one cut
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KenJax Tree
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I'm all for Murphing it
I agree we can't tell what's on the ground, but in my opinion, a smaller clean up area is VERY low in my decision tree. Teach them groundies how to rake, fast.
ScottinAK
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Lol, we did a wind fall on Friday. This lady "couldn't get out of her drive". We show up expecting to buck a big cottonwood. There was a little willow covering half the drive, she could have gone in the grass a bit or drive over the top. Oh well, easy $100 for 3 minutes of work.
Axmeaquestion
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I bought the smoke, works pretty good for keeping sun out but I prefer a mesh face shield and good pair of safety glasses.
I've tried 10 different glasses none are enough for me to look into the sun all day as a crane op so im looking to go shield and glasses.
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Axmeaquestion
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I use these ESS ones, they were expensive but very comfortable. For crane work I think the smoke visor plus tinted glasses should work fine.
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The problem with glasses plus a visor is the refraction of light. It messes with your depth perception.
Hmmmm well the company can buy me a visor n I'll try if I no like with glasses I'll use just visor cause my glasses always hurt my ears under my muffs anywho...
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climbhightree
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1). My business runs a 2 man crew...so I'm the ground guy.
2). We (as a industry) are arborist, not fellers. We are specialized at piecing out trees in a safe and controled manner. Going out and flopping a tree isn't going to bring in the big bucks for our work, or industry. If you are charging big bucks for a simple fell and clean up, then your cheating your clients...and hurting the industry in my opinion.
If a potential client tells me I can just flop the tree I often just want to roll my eyes, because there usually isn't even a clear path. My second thought is if that what you truly want, then you called the wrong guys.
"Kiss My Axe"
Associate degree in forestry from PSU Mont Alto
Certified Arborist
Owner/operator of Climb High Tree Service established in 2002
www.climbhightree.com
https://m.facebook.com/ClimbHighTreeService
https://www.youtube.com/user/climbhightree
https://www.youtube.com/user/2treekiller2
So if you specialize in removing trees up high, where things can go wrong so much easier, you have to make sure everything is 100% whether you are taking a small piece or a big piece. Why can't you use your skills to go even bigger?
I roll with a crane 99% of the time but we still flop when we can I've pulled over trees that could have been picked no problem. I've flopped trees twords the street then picked pieces off that just so we didn't have to plywood in ive flopped trees cause the climber was tired I've flopped trees cause my good climber was not there and I didn't want the headache of the backup I've picked easy floppers to help the tired ground guys out I've picked small floppers whole just to put it right behind the chipper to save the 30 foot drag. it's all about production baby time is money!
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climbhightree
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Not saying I can't...just most times choose not to, especially when in close proximity to a house etc. I went to school for forestry, and I would hit my stakes when felling trees with just a wedge. Plus, logging/woodland management was my original business plan. I'm not 100 percent against flopping, there is a time and place for it.
Rigging, if done correctly, is 100 time more controled then flopping a tree (even with a pull line). If a rigged piece goes wrong, it will most likely cause less damage than a tree that goes wrong.
Time is money, and that is some of my point too. Can't charge a customer a grand for a flop.
"Kiss My Axe"
Associate degree in forestry from PSU Mont Alto
Certified Arborist
Owner/operator of Climb High Tree Service established in 2002
www.climbhightree.com
https://m.facebook.com/ClimbHighTreeService
https://www.youtube.com/user/climbhightree
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I have been having a beautiful year,,going into Fall and Winter,,,gonna be great,, I heard some guys get snow,,,
We don't have the four seasons,,,,no slow down,,,we might get some rain tho,,, hopefully!!!!
Jeff
We don't have the four seasons,,,,no slow down,,,we might get some rain tho,,, hopefully!!!!
Jeff
Had a big storm here on the weekend. Still raining and having to take large cottonwoods off roofs. Blah. And having to wear safety glasses (that are steaming up) along with a mesh face shield. Can barely see my hand, let alone the tree. Clean up for the rest of the week.
installed 24mm 10.000kg bull rope to back up safety of possible decayed limb failure while i arrange garden bed pedestrian exclusion zone below it
tied off with my very own derwoodii running 8 stronger than bowline non snitch non wear while easy adjustable
Wayne Wilkinson
ArboristSite Operative
I have been having a beautiful year,,going into Fall and Winter,,,gonna be great,, I heard some guys get snow,,,
We don't have the four seasons,,,,no slow down,,,we might get some rain tho,,, hopefully!!!!
Jeff
Picked up a BOSS plow off of a buddy. Should be plowing with the lawn care company I came from this year. I remember him throwing his phone on the floor board cussing because he didnt have enough trucks to get to all the work he had the last few years. Hopefully when were not plowing, we can be working, but the way I understand it business pretty much dies off end of DEC around here. We shall see if i survive the winter! Maybe get the rest of this wood split and try and sell some of it to off set the lack of work we are expecting.
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