Search results

Start watching 2 mins in.

If it's a group called NATS doing the training I feel sorry for you.

Someone I contract climb for said he knew the guy. I was told he had his harness on while helping feed the chipper and it was his lanyard that got sucked in. He was crazy lucky it didn't kill him...

Yeah all that happened, but plenty more have been let go that they haven't told you about. Don't bring up any pay issues, more than a few got let go complaining about how California labor laws were being broken. Also, they were signing people on as qualified fellers who showed up with a MS...

Like I said earlier, you get fired if you question them. And I need the money at the moment. Trust me I've asked the trainers about nearly everything they say. And everytime they will tell you it's safer without actually defending their technique.

You still haven't given a logical reason, btw you saying it's safer doesn't count as a logical reason.

Well there are plenty of "good" reasons to never use this garbage method. This method adds unecessary danger, so safety would be the first obvious reason. We actually care about our safety, that's why we don't pound wedges this way.

Yep every tree, but hey nearly everything gol is ridiculous. Basically gol is an over-engineered way to fell small trees. 36" is average timber over here on the left coast. It's not that bore stacking wedges won't work, it just doesn't work very well. It takes a lot of extra force to break...

If you're still defending this garbage method of stacking wedges, then any dutchman on purpose is way beyond your timber felling knowledge. Oh so you think your large eastern hardwoods weigh more than average left coast softwoods, cool story bro.

Thanks, this is basically my same opinion on this stacking method. You explained its obvious shortfalls better than I could. That's hilarious, definitely gonna start using that term.

This a fire rehab job, not a wildfire suppression job. Basically a big California electric utility hired a company from out of state so they could avoid the 41% comprehensive insurance rate. The company is out of the south, and they hired a company called NATS (North American Training...

The problem is if you question any of their methods you get fired. I'm all for learning new techniques to add to the bag of tricks. But all they bloat about is how their methods are superior and safer. They also preach a boring back-cut on every tree.

Couldn't agree more, but if you question this method they give you the pink slip. All while preaching safety! safety! safety!

So I've been working a fire rehab job in California. And we have all these trainer's from the south that tell us how to fell the trees. They're basically GOL worshippers, its been incredibly frustrating working for them. But I've got a specific question about the way they tell us to wedge...

Logging is one of the most dangerous professions in North America. It flips between commercial crab fishermen depending on which had more die that year. You seem to be humble and have an upbeat attitude. I'm guessing you care about your life, so I'm gonna go with you had no idea how dangerous...

That was horribly painful to watch. Other than putting a line in the tree to be felled, everything else was an example of what not to do.

The tree being driven was probably a pis fur, aka white fir. The one being fell is probably either a ponderosa or Douglas-fir. They're all still softwoods, dead wood just cuts slower than green.

I like bashing on bunny huggers like the rest, but let's get the thread back on topic. Here is another vid from that same fire. The video is of my falling partner Glen taking down two trees. Both of these snags were leaning heavily into each other. The vid is just the back-cut on the second...

There is no commercial harvest allowed period on national parks. You'll find plenty of timber employees in the forest service, but none in the parks. You're correct in that both properties are federal, but they are managed for very different objectives.

When timber gets fire killed like this it has to be harvested within 6 months to still be of any value, not much of a chip market over here anyways. Any longer than that and typically only good for firewood, which the forest service doesn't allow to be cut for firewood in Central Oregon. So...