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Thanks Brad, but I was hoping to hear something directly from Sawtroll. He seemed quite assertive in his judgement of this saw. One would presume that he could cite some facts/specs/market trends that support, or even drive his position. I'll repeat my question so Sawtroll doesn't miss it...

Sawtroll, What are the specific elements of the 362 that render it 'outdated' already?

I think you just described 'mechanical charge stratification'. :)

First off....this isn't directed at you personally, sawinredneck (I've never met you), but your post seemed the logical one for my comment.... I think it's ironic that we (I'm including myself here) complain about a saw that weighs a pound or two more than it's competitors, but will tolerate...

I don't see why not. I believe that a number of folks have demonstrated that you don't have to actually 'own' or even try running given saw to know for sure that it's just not any good. :)

Yes.....who's going to break down and buy a dyno so we can get some objective measurements/comparisons? :) Thanks for putting all these in one place....I was a bit confused with all the different build off threads.

FWIW, I recently bought a gallon jug of the 'orange' Stihl pre-mix, expecting that same black/blue/green color that I'd been seeing for years. Imagine my surprise when I mixed up my first batch and the 'Klotz look-a-like' red oil came out of the bottle. I called Stihl to see if I may have...

I, for one, think it would be AWESOME if the EPA had a way to reduce the CO2 emissions produced by some people. :)

Is square grinding something that can be applied to semi-chisel chain or does this only apply to full chisel chain? Thanks!

Thanks for the civil answer. I suppose I hadn't noted the quality of the surface finish....etc. I just took a quick glance at his ad and noted that he was selling a rather expensive 'ported' saw. That's about where I jumped in and asked to be 'caught up'. I didn't realize it was so easy to...

Not sure I understand the question here???? To rephrase my first post.... This guy on eBay seems to be doing all the stuff that I see in 'porting' threads here on AS. I was confused why everyone was speaking poorly of his work. I feel like I'm missing the joke......that's why I asked.

Catch me up..... Why, again, is everyone bashing this ebay seller? He seems to be performing the standard "treat the engine like it's a V-8 cylinder head", 'port' job that goes over so well here on AS. Is the bashing because his pricing is out of line?

This simply isn't true. The reason the 'strato' engine uses less fuel is because it wastes much less unburned fuel out the exhaust port. The mixture inside the combustion chamber during ignition doesn't automatically 'have to' be 'leaner' just because the engine uses less fuel. That being...

Have you tried the muffler (modified) from the M-tronic on the carb equipped MS441?

Did I read the date correctly? This study was from 2002?

I haven't seen anything factual, but I've 'heard' from some friends working in the industry that Stihl owns Zama....but not Zama USA. Who knows?

Away from the world of chainsaws, 2-stroke tuners typically agree that one needs some sort of expansion chamber exhaust to create enough BMEP (Brake Mean Effective Pressure) to cause detonation as a result of an octane deficiency(at pump gas levels). Most of us don't mess with saws that have...

Very interesting. Thanks for pointing this out. Now off to do some reading.....

Thoughts like this display the whole 'engine mod' thing in a whole new light. :) Sorry....I grew up on Beavis and Butthead.

I've found lots of threads expressing concern/disdain over the ethanol in pump gas. Here's an old trick of removing it from fuel.....I wasn't sure how many of you were aware of this so I found a link to post.... Modelgasboats.com - RC Boats Magazine - "How Too" remove ALCOHOL from pump gas ....