Astounding statistic on forest land since 1600

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I was just reading a portion of Douglas W. MacCleery's book, American Forests: A History of Resiliency and Recovery. If I'm reading correctly, the amount of U.S. forest land dropped only 13% from the year 1600 to 2000. Yet the population grew from 350 people in 1610 to 308 million in 2010. So, a loss of 13% of forest land sustained a 30 billion percent in population.

Is this astounding?

Thanks,
Tommy
 
Well, the math is off a ways. Who did the measuring in 1610? Does the 350 number include all the non-European residents?
 
Yet the population grew from 350 people in 1610 to 308 million in 2010.

Umm, in that 350 number in 1610 you seem to have missed about, ahh, several million native Americans, and that's the ones still alive at the time. The arrival of Europeans in the 1500s decimated the Native American population in just a few decades, not with guns, but with diseases like influenza and small pox.

But yeah, that forest reduction number is probably correct, when accounting for the amount of deserts, the amount of prairie/grassland, the amount of uncultivated mountain forests, and the fact that those millions of Native Americans living here for several millennia did a pretty good job of clearing the forests to farm on for themselves.
 
Well, the math is off a ways. Who did the measuring in 1610? Does the 350 number include all the non-European residents?
Well, the math is off a ways. Who did the measuring in 1610? Does the 350 number include all the non-European residents?
That figure of 350 people in 1610 was only the British colonists living in Virginia. So, I was off by several million.
I guess what I was getting at is, it's theoretically possible to "put it all back", i.e. get the percentage of forest land back to what is was in 1600. Not likely, nor even necessary, but within the realm of possibility.
 
Let's not forget that the most significant loss of forested land was between 1700 and 1900 while clearing land for farming in the east and midwest. The logging of the big softwood forests of the west was a much less significant loss of forest land because so much of it was either reforested or left to reseed and grow back naturally. Yet, the current laws regarding land use focus most heavily on that area and time. This is because our memories are short and our laws anthropocentric.
 
Let's not forget that the most significant loss of forested land was between 1700 and 1900 while clearing land for farming in the east and midwest. The logging of the big softwood forests of the west was a much less significant loss of forest land because so much of it was either reforested or left to reseed and grow back naturally. Yet, the current laws regarding land use focus most heavily on that area and time. This is because our memories are short and our laws anthropocentric.
Well said. And it triggers a question in my mind. Two, actually. First, how much forest is "enough?" What do we really need? Second, having to do with laws.
Here in North Carolina, I know that people who inherit valuable farm land but don't want to farm it and also don't want to sell it, can avoid high property taxes by planting it with trees for lumber or pulpwood. I wonder if this is a trend for the future.
 
Well said. And it triggers a question in my mind. Two, actually. First, how much forest is "enough?" What do we really need? Second, having to do with laws.
Here in North Carolina, I know that people who inherit valuable farm land but don't want to farm it and also don't want to sell it, can avoid high property taxes by planting it with trees for lumber or pulpwood. I wonder if this is a trend for the future.
Wouldn't bother me a bit. I'm a forester, and that smells like job security to me.
 
If you ask me, we could do a LOT more to re-establish forests in the Pacific NW. Here inland, we are still living in the middle of hundreds of thousands of deforested acres that are really only good for growing trees - as evidenced by the inability of many of these lands to support agriculture or livestock.

The problem isn't the forest industry. The problem is that everyone BUT the forest industry is not required to replant their clear cuts.

What these deforested lands do seem to readily grow are casinos, malls, and gas stations...
 
What these deforested lands do seem to readily grow are casinos, malls, and gas stations...

That's my least-favorite kind of change in land-use. The rise of the REIT and the TIMO don't help the situation any, either, especially in the wake of the Spotted Owl decision. It's like they all said "well if we can't cut any more we'll just sell it and be done with it".
 
it's theoretically possible to "put it all back", i.e. get the percentage of forest land back to what is was in 1600.

What needs to be remembered (as I tried to point out) is that when settlers arrived from Europe they were pleasantly welcomed with already cleared forests, or at the very least, rather young growth. Native Americans were much, much more developed than what most school books teach, and to support their millions with what would have been low yield farming would have required huge areas of farming.

However, European diseases swept through well before most settlers set foot in an area, and Indian villages which probably had thousands of inhabitants were reduced to hundreds or even just a few dozen, or were completely abandoned all together. The fields, already flattened and cleared for centuries, were left to go fallow as nobody was there to tend them, and when settlers came they had little trouble bringing them back to life (so no, there wasn't nearly as much 'old growth' forest as imagined pre-1600).

This is also true in the Amazon (still a theory, but becoming generally accepted). The massive rainforest that many say has been there since forever probably wasn't as big as today, and the indication for this is the soil. Called "terra preta", this super rich dirt found all over the Amazon (in what is now dense jungle) was actually man-made. Unbelievably huge swaths of it. Its not natural and probably covered an exponentially larger area at the time (its still covers about 10% of the Amazon basin ...about the size of Montana). And considering the cities and giant population that existed up to when Europeans arrived, it'd be understandable that such large amounts of farmland would be necessary (again, especially with low yield farming). But then again, considering that Native Americans were living in these places for over 15,000 years, one would imagine they would have altered the landscape to a large degree.
 
I've read somewhere, that there is actually a whole lot more forest land now, then when Whitey first arrived. Something like 300% more. Largely do to the near extinction of bison, and the rounding up of natives.

If you go to places like Oklahoma today, its largely scrub oak forest, and as recent as the 1930's it was valuable farm land (dust bowl etc), now mostly useless for farming its left to do whatever, but without the bison, trees take over
 
See the NASA Earth Observatory page linked below for an interesting graphic and discussion relevant to this thread.

That species list/histogram of species vs relative abundance is particularly interesting. I'd like to see a similar treatment for all land use types as well as a more robust time axis. I'm guessing that there will be a geographic shift over time for each individual species, with some gaining area and some losing, and a distinct trend toward trees adapted to broader ecological niches faring better than trees with specific demands.
 
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