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City Ordinances Do not like my firewood contirdiction ?

Discussion in 'Homeowner Helper Forum' started by bowtieman427, Apr 16, 2017.

  1. bowtieman427

    bowtieman427 ArboristSite Lurker

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    I live in a town of 2500 in SEMN and many people here have wood stoves or burn wood outside. My wonderful neighbor hates that I burn wood. So they went to the city to complain. Got letter from the city and they stating that I need an enclosure or remove all fire wood. Fire wood all in back yard and stack along my 6 foot privacy fence. Not really seen accept by neighbor next store that has a chain link section for about 30 ft. there is NO wood along that. within a block there are poeple that have a lot more wood then I and some have it in front yard in plain view.

    Per this city code they are stating below for the reason however further down in different section of code Fire wood is exempt from an enclosure, but he stated I have way to much about 3-5 full cords stacked about 5 ft high along the fence. and some in between trees.

    SEC. 10.42. HAZARDOUS CONDITIONS.
    Subd. 1. Preamble.
    A. Private Property
    . The Council finds that accumulation on private property of
    unlicensed, unregistered or inoperable motor vehicles,
    household furniture, furnishings or appliances, or
    parts or components thereof, or metal, wood, glass,
    paper, rubber, concrete, or
    other material, whether
    organic or inorganic, can facilitate the growth or
    spread of noxious weeds, the nesting and breeding of
    rodents, insects, and harmful bacteria, and be a threat of fire. The Council also finds that unless such
    accumulation is stored in a lawfully operated junk yard, housed within a lawfully erected building, or in a
    container designed for storage of such material for shor
    t periods of time, and the contents disposed of on a
    regular schedule, under provisions of
    the City Code, it is a source of
    filth, cause of sickness, and an
    immediate danger to the health, safety and welfare of
    persons and property in the City. The Council finds
    that if such unauthorized, unwholesome and dangerous
    accumulation is permitted to continue to pose
    such a threat it is a hazardous condition and a nuisance,
    must be abated, and that this Section is adopted to
    protect the residents of the City and their property a
    nd, in addition, to protect the rights of persons who
    may be found in violation of its provisions. "Accumulation" as that term is used in this Subparagraph A,
    means prohibited items in any number or amount.

    What I find funny in the same ordinances a few paragraphs down
    Subd. 2.
    Exterior Storage.
    A.
    In residential districts, all materials and equi
    pment shall be stored within a building or be
    fully screened so as not to be visible from adjoinin
    g properties, except for the following in good order:
    laundry drying and recreational e
    quipment, construction and land
    scaping materials and equipment
    currently being used on the premises, agricultural equi
    pment and materials, if these are used or intended
    for use on the premise's, off-street parking of passenger automobiles and pick-up trucks and fire wood.
    Boats and unoccupied trailers, less than 25 feet in leng
    th, are permissible. Existing uses shall comply with
    this provision within 12 months of th
    e effective date of this Chapter.

    Specifically states Fire wood does NOT need an enclosure. And I let him know to me it specifically mentions we can store firewood on property. The City administrator stated to me there seems to be a contradiction and needs to talk to the city attorney. All my wood is in back yard and not very visible from the street. I agreed to move some wood to other part of back yard and put a tarp over it. But I am not removing it or building an enclosure.

    Has anyone else had to deal with issues like this ??
    Any suggestions to keep the city at bay for the future of firewood ?
     
  2. Philbert

    Philbert Chainsaw Enthusiast

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    In 'The Cities' they want the firewood off of the ground to keep critters from living in/under/around/between. I am sure that there are similar regulations about screening, volume, etc.

    Philbert
     
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    echomeister ArboristSite Lurker

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    They can't single you out while others get to keep their firewood. City attorney will explain that to the official.
     
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    Switch to coal and wait for greenpeace to beg you to start burning wood again.
     
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    BC WetCoast Addicted to ArboristSite

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    Most municipalities only see this as an issue if someone complains, which is why the others aren't bothered.
    I would talk to the inspector and see what accommodation you can come with. You could go to a politico, but as a former city employee, I will tell you, you won't make friends if the staffer gets what on by the politico. And staffers stay employed long after the next election.
     
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    bayard ArboristSite Guru

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    i am on the local zoning board. in most towns all you need to do is take a lot of pictures. of other wood piles . say 20 houses and show it to the inspector. that should end it.
     
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    Seems to me you are in the clear. If your firewood is neatly stacked and in a regular rotation there should be no problem. The ordinance is clearly designed to prevent piles of unwanted debris. Neatly stacked firewood is not that.
     
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    Dahmer ArboristSite Operative

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    Stick to your guns. Their own ordinance gives you the right.
     
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    moresnow ArboristSite Lurker

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    Curious. What town in SEMN? Seems that everywhere you look in that region you see wood piles. Some people are impossible. Good luck!
     
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    ropensaddle Feel Lucky

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    This is why Rope could never live in the city again. Too many progressives with delusional Utopian idealistic dreams for me. I would end up on America's most wanted. I'm old school over my fence is none of my business if it is not effecting me and I mean effecting not a little smoke or sight of wood piles:barbecue: If you however decide to have a pet tiger in your back yard near my grandkids playhouse, that is much different. Or if you decide your hedge trimmings are ok to be thrown onto my side etc. effecting!
     
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    ropensaddle Feel Lucky

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    So I would say he has way too much tax monies and it offends me so he must get rid of it . How much is too much wood anyway ? Too much wood could be defined by loss of greater than 25% of the volume before its end use due to rot leaving 75% for use. Its the reason I don't mind having only 20 cords and not 100 because;I can sell 20 but if i have a 100, much might end up wasted labor!
     
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    Go to the city clerks office and purchase a privilege license for a firewood business :) Usually its 25 to 50 dollars then get floodlights installed in your back yard and turn those 4 cords into 25 :)
    Before you do, go talk to all the neighbors that you see wood at; tell them your thinking of starting up wood supply part time business and are exploring the market and would they be interested in your product :popcorn2:
     
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