Greystoke
Tarzan
Geez the maggots are coming out in droves now! Even got a death threat...not sure how to respond to that one? Go read some of the comments by these maggots.
Falling Old Growth Redwood
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RandyMac
Stiff Member
invite them to the back lot at the local dive, none will show, they are only brave behind a keyboard.
frustrate them by disabling the comments.
promac850
formerly promac610
Yep, what RandyMac said.
Treehuggers suck.
They find/think anything done to the earth is wrong. Cutting trees... wrong. Drilling for oil... wrong. They want everyone to drive electric cars and other bull#### like that.
As for old growth timber, it's gonna fall down eventually. Either by man or nature. It's inevitable.
Oh, and who likes their toilet paper? You wouldn't have that if trees weren't dropped nearly every day...
They just don't get it...
Treehuggers suck.
They find/think anything done to the earth is wrong. Cutting trees... wrong. Drilling for oil... wrong. They want everyone to drive electric cars and other bull#### like that.
As for old growth timber, it's gonna fall down eventually. Either by man or nature. It's inevitable.
Oh, and who likes their toilet paper? You wouldn't have that if trees weren't dropped nearly every day...
They just don't get it...
Metals406
Granfodder Runningsaw
Report that nutter for open death threats Cody! What a fricken loon!!
Greystoke
Tarzan
Workin on it. Just not sure where to do it? Wish I could pound the P.O.S. What a little chicken#### maggot!
promac850
formerly promac610
Find someone that can do IP traces... bet you could find that little chicken#### maggot...
RandyMac
Stiff Member
CA PC422, they can go to prison and learn what true violence is.
Criminal threats is the crime of putting someone in fear.
California Penal Code 422 PC defines the crime of "criminal threats" (formerly known as terrorist threats).
A "criminal threat" is when you threaten to kill or physically harm someone and
that person is thereby placed in a state of reasonably sustained fear for his/her safety or for the safety of his/her immediate family,
the threat is specific and unequivocal and
you communicate the threat verbally, in writing, or via an electronically transmitted device.1
Criminal threats can be charged whether or not you have the ability to carry out the threat...and even if you don't actually intend to execute the threat.
Criminal threats is the crime of putting someone in fear.
California Penal Code 422 PC defines the crime of "criminal threats" (formerly known as terrorist threats).
A "criminal threat" is when you threaten to kill or physically harm someone and
that person is thereby placed in a state of reasonably sustained fear for his/her safety or for the safety of his/her immediate family,
the threat is specific and unequivocal and
you communicate the threat verbally, in writing, or via an electronically transmitted device.1
Criminal threats can be charged whether or not you have the ability to carry out the threat...and even if you don't actually intend to execute the threat.
Greystoke
Tarzan
I am not going to be intimidated. It is kind of fun bantering with some of those morons, especially now that I am getting paid for my video...look how many views it has...keep the hippies comin! Still makes me wonder if I oughta start packin my 44 and lookin over my shoulder. Really pisses me off how tough some of these ####ers talk behind a computer. Checked that maggots channel and of course there is nothing that he puts up...typical little chicken#### ####er! Oh well, I finally found a place to report it on youtube, hopefully they will do something about it.
RandyMac
Stiff Member
Contact your local DA.
Greystoke
Tarzan
I really think it is just some moron talkin ####, but we will see...
Greystoke
Tarzan
Hopefully, or they will just blow it off. I am sure this #### happens all the time in the cyber world, just hard to separate the bull#### from the legit.
Rickytree
Addicted to ArboristSite
Nice Vids. Make you think on how they got those monsters down without the hydraulic jacks back in the day. Wonder if they sharpen their own saws? Hey and no one yelled TIMBER! what's this world coming to. On the tree huggers I would love to know how many trees they planted in their lives. Some probably did and some do alot of bablying.
Greystoke
Tarzan
Definitely ground my own chains pard. Owned a Silvey Pro Sharp for most of my Career. Sorry for not yelling timber...we realized this so we yelled it twice on the next tree we fell 
M.D. Vaden
vadenphotography.com
Well, with like 95% of old growth wiped clean, I guess the guys who pick the bones clean from the remaining 5% of table scraps might want some recognition every once in a while.
Nothing wrong with logging, provided forests are managed. It's mostly the past generations who gave loggers a bad name, because forest management was virtually non-existent. What we leave in our wake over a lifetime is what's most important.
So the question is, what does a tree cutter and his company leave behind over a 50 year period when everything is considered. When harvesting, planting, habitats, recreation and environment are all lumped together in one big wad, is that wad better or worse after 50 or 100 years?
Here's food for thought ...
Redwood National Park would have no old growth if it were not for "tree huggers". And at the rate it was being logged, the loggers probably would not have had jobs anyway had they kept cutting for a couple of years more. So within just a few years, the loggers ended up with little more than they would have had. But the public ended up with part of a world heritage site that brings tourism to California and the United States.
I think the most interesting concept is not whether Redwood National Park area should have been cut, but at what rate it should have been harvested. That's the golden question that I have not heard but maybe 1 in 100 loggers try to answer. If there are 100,000 acres of old growth, how much is the right amount to cut each year, to maintain the job force over like 200 years, and keep the biomass close to the same? That kind of question and answer session is much better than mere argument.
The other question is ... what do you need positive hits for? If you like your video, sit back and enjoy it.
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Rickytree
Addicted to ArboristSite
Definitely ground my own chains pard. Owned a Silvey Pro Sharp for most of my Career. Sorry for not yelling timber...we realized this so we yelled it twice on the next tree we fell
Was joking about the chains! Cheers..
Greystoke
Tarzan
Why is it that people just don't get it. I never said I wanted to cut all the Old Growth Redwoods. I enjoy walking through the groves as much as anybody, and do appreciate the fact that some areas were set aside. These are the kind of Tree Huggers I am talking about, and that I had the misfortune of dealing with when I lived there, and that continue to put ignorant comments on my video:
[video=youtube;ElJFYwRtrH4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElJFYwRtrH4[/video]
If you want to call yourself a tree hugger like them, go ahead. Do you think John D. Rockefeller, whose large donations helped purchase the parks, would like to be linked to morons like this?
Once again, the tree in my video, was missing it's top, which is one reason why it was left, and it was on PRIVATE PROPERTY. It was harvested under law abiding thp's. It is a Socialist idea that people should not be able to do what they want on their property. I agree that past logging practices were out of hand, but also, WE ALL have capitalized on them! San Francisco along with every other major city on the tree hugging hippy coast...do you think it would be there if Old growth Redwood had not been cut to make room for the town, and provide lumber to build it?
Anybody who is against past old growth logging, who lives in any town (especially West Coast towns where old growth is so revered), where old growth was cut to make room for them to live, needs a history lesson, and a lesson in humility. Time to stop being hypocrites. The timber industry in our country is a joke, and needs to be a viable tool for taking care of our forests, and providing DOMESTIC lumber.
Your statement about logging 100,000 acres and at what rate? That is a good one to ponder. And having lived in Humboldt County for a while and getting to know folks that grew up there was the question that was answered by many there. I seemed that the Murphy family was practicing this, and it is unfortunate that a maggot Texas Millionaire took over and milked it for all it was worth. That was dispicable, and it sucks that loggers have to be likened to people like that...oh well. I am proud of cutting that tree down and I gave it respect by saving every bd. ft. that I could.
Rickytree
Addicted to ArboristSite
M.D. Vaden
vadenphotography.com
There are other replies in this thread. So a good chunk of what I wrote is associated with those other conversations.
Part of it has to do with the blanket label "tree hugger" commonly used, rather than dividing the group into smaller factions, because the term tree hugger is a pretty loose term.
This for example ...
Which tree huggers, and to what beneficial end?
Considering that some people committed to tree preservation have been willing to endure substantial discomfort, what they wipe their butt with gets lost in the issue.
The fact that the courage of some should be questioned, almost becomes like a political ad. It's almost a point to avoid and move on.
:msp_smile:
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