Full Crank vs. Stuffed Crank

[Mastermind]

The 357 jug is a nice, well made, closed port design. The 359 jug is a total piece of **** that was made in a Chinese sweat shop.

 

[mt.stalker]

How much difference is there in those two cylinders?

$54.10 @ Bailey's

 

[old-cat]

The 357 jug is a nice, well made, closed port design. The 359 jug is a total piece of **** that was made in a Chinese sweat shop.

So, if you put a 357 cylinder on the 359, would the power curve be wider than the 357, still?

 

[sunfish]

The 357 jug is a nice, well made, closed port design. The 359 jug is a total piece of **** that was made in a Chinese sweat shop.

No pie last night, Randy???

 

[rob066]

So, if you put a 357 cylinder on the 359, would the power curve be wider than the 357, still?

Been thinking about doing that on my 2159. Putting on a 2156 cylinder but dont know if it is worth it or has much benefit.

 

[Mastermind]

So, if you put a 357 cylinder on the 359, would the power curve be wider than the 357, still?

I do believe it would be Lynn.

No pie last night, Randy???

I had a pile of 359s here with toasted top ends. The plating is so crappy that salvaging them ain't really an option. Out of 5 or 6 I was able to save 1.

Needless to say.......I'm not a fan of the 359. I thought that Hyway was gonna save the day with a nice closed port top end for them. Out of three jugs, two of them had terrible plating issues, and were totally unusable. So........I'm still hoping someone , somewhere comes thru with a good jug for the 359. So far......they are all just plain junk.

 

[sunfish]

Been thinking about doing that on my 2159. Putting on a 2156 cylinder but dont know if it is worth it or has much benefit.

The difference would be slight, the 2156 top end would be a little faster. I wouldn't do it unless I needed a new top-end.

 

[sunfish]

I do believe it would be Lynn.



I had a pile of 359s here with toasted top ends. The plating is so crappy that salvaging them ain't really an option. Out of 5 or 6 I was able to save 1.

Needless to say.......I'm not a fan of the 359. I thought that Hyway was gonna save the day with a nice closed port top end for them. Out of three jugs, two of them had terrible plating issues, and were totally unusable. So........I'm still hoping someone , somewhere comes thru with a good jug for the 359. So far......they are all just plain junk.

I didn't know the 359 cylinders were that bad. But I do know the 357 cylinder is high quality Mahle.

 

[old-cat]

I do believe it would be Lynn.



I had a pile of 359s here with toasted top ends. The plating is so crappy that salvaging them ain't really an option. Out of 5 or 6 I was able to save 1.

Needless to say.......I'm not a fan of the 359. I thought that Hyway was gonna save the day with a nice closed port top end for them. Out of three jugs, two of them had terrible plating issues, and were totally unusable. So........I'm still hoping someone , somewhere comes thru with a good jug for the 359. So far......they are all just plain junk.

So, wouldn't the OEM 357 cylinder be the WAY to go?

 

[Duane(Pa)]

I do believe it would be Lynn.



I had a pile of 359s here with toasted top ends. The plating is so crappy that salvaging them ain't really an option. Out of 5 or 6 I was able to save 1.

Needless to say.......I'm not a fan of the 359. I thought that Hyway was gonna save the day with a nice closed port top end for them. Out of three jugs, two of them had terrible plating issues, and were totally unusable. So........I'm still hoping someone , somewhere comes thru with a good jug for the 359. So far......they are all just plain junk.

Nice to know. GULP! Will a 357 top end work on a 359, straight swap?

 

[Mastermind]

The factory top end will perform fine. No need to look for a replacement. If the piston does happen to become scored though. It's not likely that the jug will be able to be salvaged.

 

[sunfish]

Nice to know. GULP! Will a 357 top end work on a 359, straight swap?

Yep, they are the same except for the top-end.

 

[nmurph]

Yep, they are the same except for the top-end.

...and the crank stuffers.


I have a 359 top end on a 357 case. It is definitely stronger than a stock 357 with a mm and BGD. I've remember JJ saying the best setup is a 357 cylinder on a 359 case. I don't remember if that was with porting or not.

 

[old-cat]

...and the crank stuffers.


I have a 359 top end on a 357 case. It is definitely stronger than a stock 357 with a mm and BGD. I've remember JJ saying the best setup is a 357 cylinder on a 359 case. I don't remember if that was with porting or not.

Isn't the 359 a larger bore? What is BGD?

 

[sunfish]

...and the crank stuffers.

Well, yes...

 

[sunfish]

Isn't the 359 a larger bore? What is BGD?

yes, 359 larger bore, by 1mm I believe... Base gasket delete = BGD.

 

[Mastermind]

I'm building a 350 right now for Jon's uncle. Base gasket deleted, transfers raised to 118, open the lowers a little......and a muffler mod of course.

I bet it will run circles around some that have been ground on in every opening.

 

[sunfish]

I'm building a 350 right now for Jon's uncle. Base gasket deleted, transfers raised to 118, open the lowers a little......and a muffler mod of course.

I bet it will run circles around some that have been ground on in every opening.

Ya mean ya ain't goin to 'Hog out' all the ports?

 

[Mastermind]

Nope........I wanna do something else today......so I'm gonna half ass this one.

 

[sunfish]

Nope........I wanna do something else today......so I'm gonna half ass this one.

lol... I just ran my old 346 with minimal grinding on new oem 50cc top-end. Very impressed!