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How Rugged is the RedMax G621AVS

Discussion in 'Chainsaw' started by hwew, Oct 23, 2007.

  1. hwew

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    I am looking for a rugged saw and I was thinking of the RedMax G621AVS.

    I am from the old school and the equipment does not have to be the latest and greatest gadgets or the fastest cutting speed. I understand the G621AVS has very good low and mid torque. I know it is an old design but that is ok. One of my saws that I had most problems with was an 046 and I am done with Stihl. The Shindaiwa 488 has been my most reliable saw yet but I need a 60cc saw to add to my fleet. The other saw brands I am looking at are. Dolmar, Husqvarna and Jonsered. It is too bad that Shindaiwa does not make a 60cc saw anymore.
     
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    It is easy to understand your frustration with Stihl because your saw had a problem. However one bad saw shouldn't cause you to judge the entire brand that way. Stihl is number one for a good reason and that is reliability. Most members here have great respect for the 460 regardless of your experience and probably would like to help you get that saw to perform the way it should.

    There are Husqvarna dealers and Stihl dealers around here and that is about it. Oh, one saw shop stocks two Dolmars. At any rate, whatever brand you settle on may you have a better experience than you did with your Stihl.
     
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    I didn't answer your post re the other brands because I have no hands on time with any of them. In fact I have never seen a Remax or a Shindaiwa saw.
     
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    Just a weekend user but

    I think you have chosen some really good saws.

    I would try to get my sick 046 to RiverRat, Andy or another member for repair. Or maybe try the search function with your saw issues. The 046 according to what I have read is a very good saw.

    And..........WELCOME! Lots of good people here. I have learned a great deal reading their posts.
     
  5. hwew

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    Sorry Guys,

    I sold the 046. after going through 2 carbs and 1 cylinder I decided it was enough. Yea I was frustrated. You shell out over $700.00 for a new saw back in 2000 and just had problems with it about 2 months later makes you wonder. I got rid of it last month. Anyway it is time to learn and then shop for a saw that fits my needs. I don't need a saw as large as the 046 right this moment. BUT on the other hand the Dolmar 7900 is very tempting.

    I think I am getting off track here. What I need at this time is a saw that is around 60cc and can run a 20" bar with 3/8 pitch chain. But if needed a 24" bar for that one job that you do not plan on.

    The reason why I was leaning towards the RedMax G621AVS is price and displacement.

    It would be nice having a dolmar 7900. It is only a pound heavier. Right now I cannot justify spending $300.00 more. Mabye you guys can talk me into going for it.
     
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    Pony up for the Shindaiwa 757. Great machine with great torque.

    If you have to have a 60ish cc saw for a good price, find yourself a 962 Efco - I hear they are pretty hot to trot and respond well to mods. There should be a few dealers around with some leftovers for a good price.
     
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    You Know the Shindaiwa 757 has crossed my mind.

    It might make a great companion saw with my 488.

    The question I have is how much torque does the 757 have? I never seen one in action. But I did pick one up and held it. Does it have torque like the Stihl 460 or Dolmar 7900?
     
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    A little info on the 757

    I'm running mostly Shindaiwa saws. The 488's get the most use but there is a place for the 360 and the 757. First bar I had on the 757 was 32". I took down a rather large (to me) Alder that took every bit of the bar and the saw never missed a beat. I chunked it up without a problem at all. I was taking my time on this one so I probably wasn't giving the saw a true test.

    Most of the time I run a 24" bar as I don't have a need for anything more with the stuff I cut for firewood. I have run a 20" bar on occasion but this is a bit more weight to pack around for this application.

    Saw starts easy and runs great.

    Can't compare to others as I have not run them but if I need more than what the 757 can provide I am out of my league and time to call a pro.

    Others on here can probably give more insight on what to expect, but thought I'd give you my 2 cents worth.
     
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    It is pretty hard to bog one with a sharp, full comp chain. Haven't timed it next to a 460, but having run both, they are both solid saws with pros and cons of their own. Weight is near identical - within a few ounces. The 757 will turn the R's as well...13,800 is a sweet spot for a broke-in stocker. Bottom line is, it is a solid saw with excellent reliability!

    The 7900 is in a class of its own. It is the biggest of the 3, super light weight and makes gobs of power. It is almost maxed out from the factory - gains are hard to come by. Pretty easy to get 30%+ increase in cutting times from the 460 or 757 from a good muffler mod and a little port work.

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    Red Max G621

    Very hard and durable, japanese machine. Outboard clucht, but the 357 have same problem. The oil flow is adjustable whit the fingers, under the handle, it´s a interesant feature for me.
     
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    70cc+ territory imo, unless the wood mostly are softwood........

    Well, it is of course doable with a good 60cc, but not ideal.
     
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    Nothing wrong with the Redmax. May be somewhat dated as far as features go but there make some of the toughest engines out there. The 5000 and 621 have proven to be extemely durable for the crews using them in my area.
    Don't worry about it pulling a 20" bar. It will outcut a 361 with that length of bar. Yes Saw Troll it will.
     
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    LOL, I would have to see that......

    Amick's has the 621 for $400:cheers:
     
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    I don't know about Red Max saws, but I just bought a RM leaf blower. I was told it is an old design, and it doesn't have the latest technology that the others have, but it is lighter and to me it outperformed the Husky Echo and Stihl models that I tried out. We don't have a dealer around here that sells RM saws, just trimmers and blowers. I would like to run one.

    If you can find a 2165 Jonsered, that mite be one you would want to look at. I run one with a 20'' and sometimes a 24'' and it does every thing I ask of it in 15'' to 20'' hardwood.

    Off topic: I bought a Husky 575 this past summer on line and I was totally unimpressd. I have run only 3 tankfuls through it so far and the other day when I was cutting, I couldn't get it to restart after about a half tank. Also I have never bought a Stihl because the 2 dealers that are local are both snakes.
     
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    I am enjoying all the feedback.

    Thank you Guys.

    Please keep it coming. The RedMax saw is still on my list. The same with Dolmar, Shindaiwa, Jonsered and Husqvarna.
    I would like to learn more about the strong points on each of these saw on the list. Weaknesess are helpful also.
    I need to make a decision before the end of the week.

    Be Safe
     
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    Well, I allways "heard" the Redmax 621 is a good saw - I never read any negative about it at all, as I remember it....
     
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    That is good to know. That is a plus for RedMax. It seems like they are not known for mecnanical problems and to me that is the most important thing I look for.
     
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    Here is my suggestion and is only based on how saws work in my area, your conditions may be different. I have owned or used the follwing saws in the range you are looking at. 357,359,2159,621,361, Of that bunch the 2159 is the winner, for power, handling, price and nice features. If you can handle the weight and price the 365 is bulletproof also.
     
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    How far from Asheboro NC?

    Amick's stocks & sells RedMax along with Dolmar, Husqvarna & Stihl. But they are closed tomorrow through Monday, so if you must have a saw this weekend, that won't work out.

    http://www.amickssuperstore.com/
     
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    I'm searching for a saw in the high 50-70cc range and now you fella's have me interested in redmax...as if i didn't have enough choices already.
    Local dealer is having one shipped in tues. 380 out the door w/ 20" bar.
    I'm very tempted since that's 200 less than Husky 357, Stihl 361, dolmar 6400, johnny 2159. Decisions, decisions decisions.
     

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