Motomix vs. Trufuel vs. VP vs Non-E 94 + Stihl

[blacktop]

Just replaced my MS290 with a Stihl MS271. According to the dealer, I burned up the cylinder/piston in my MS290 because I ran non-oiled fuel. I was baffled by this statement because I have always used Stihl HP oil (2.5 gallon mixture) with 2 gallon non-Ethanol (Pure) gasoline. He said I probably didn't shake it up well after mixing the two. I never did the shaking, believing just pouring the mixture in before putting the gas in was sufficient. So now I am concern that I have been doing it wrong all these years. I have been reading about these pre-mixed fuels that are $6 - $8 a quart. Everything I read about comparisons in posts are at least a year old so I am asking the question anew. Is there a difference between Motomix, Trufuel, or VP? Does it really matter which one you use? If I go the non-Ethanol route should I be buying the 94 octane non-E and mixing it with the Stihl HP 2.5 gallon mixture? There is only one place in our town, Perry GA, to buy non-Ethanol - Pure station. I do not use my saw everyday. But.....when I start using it I will go through a gallon or so before it sits another month or so. I am looking for advise. Thank you.

 

[cobey]

non ethanol fuel should be ok with stihl mix, if you dont burn much, true fuel 40:1 works good

 

[1Alpha1]

Oh cool........another fuel thread.

Almost as good as an oil thread.

Give me just a minute to get comfy. opcorn:

 

[cobey]

true fuel stores better than pump gas

 

[Milharri]

During the height of mowing season I just use the highest octane at the pump. A gallon never lasts more than a week. I run that in both Stihl weedeaters and the blower. For my chainsaw and at the end of the season I switch to Motomix. In another week I will run the blower and weedeaters out of gas and store for the winter.


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[KenJax Tree]

I shake my can real good when mixing and i shake it good everytime i refuel. Is it overkill? Maybe. But i know its mixed well.


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[Deleted member 83629]

i use midgrade ethanol free 90 pump gas and i add the oil first then the fuel and wash the oil bottle out with gas then i shake the can
i never had a problem

 

[Full Chisel]

I'd only use the canned stuff if ethanol free gas wasn't locally available. Stuff is way too pricey. As far as storage goes, I wouldn't store fuel over the cold season due to condensation. Just pour your leftover mix into your vehicle, it won't hurt a thing.

Your dealer shop probably doesn't know what they are talking about or were feeding you a line of crap. Good luck with that in the future...

 

[Full Chisel]

Also, the turbulence from the gas pump should mix it well enough if you add the oil after putting a small amount of fuel in first. A good shake doesn't hurt though...

 

[blacktop]

I shake my can real good when mixing and i shake it good everytime i refuel. Is it overkill? Maybe. But i know its mixed well.


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Maybe that was my problem. I'll remember that.

 

[blacktop]

i use midgrade ethanol free 90 pump gas and i add the oil first then the fuel and wash the oil bottle out with gas then i shake the can
i never had a problem

Another great answer. Thanks!

 

[zogger]

Use the non ethanol gas you get, synthetic mix oil, mix well, slosh the can around. I also reslosh before tank fill ups. That's all I do, gas lasts a long time.

Not a fan of 50:1, want a bit more oil than that. 32-40:1

If I only used small amounts of two stroke mix, i would buy the canned fuel and use that, whatever I could find the cheapest, 8 a quart is silly though. Well, five a quart is silly, too, but less silly. Gas at the pump this year dropped a lot, WTF the canned fuel guys haven't dropped their prices as well.

 

[Stihl Livin]

I always empty my can and then pour in my oil before I head to the gas station for non e fuel. The oil mixes well this way but I still shake it when I pour it in the saw each time. You can never be to safe just like while cutting.

 

[Deleted member 83629]

yeah zog pump gas has fell in the hole here also i hope it keeps falling i paid last week for 5 gallons of 90 ethanol free it was 3.04 per gallon
reg 87 is 2.71

 

[2dogs]

A couple of years ago I ordered 2 Stihl piggyback cans from Europe via ebay. The cans were of a white opaque plastic instead of the normal red plastic. (They also did not come with an EPA spout!). I still use these cans BTW. Anyway I could hardly believe my eyes at how long it took to completely mix either Opti 2 or Stihl Ultra. Now I add half the gas, then the oil, lastly the rest of the gasoline and shake for a couple of minutes.

Here is a pic that shows the Stihl piggyback can though not in great detail. I really like the white can except it does not show up in the woods.

 

[watsonr]

Gas at the pump this year dropped a lot, WTF the canned fuel guys haven't dropped their prices as well.

That stuff has been over priced forever, like preying on hurricane victims by selling plywood for $40 a sheet. I drive the hour to a non-e station, fill up 20 gallons and run that exclusively. Run it at 40:1 instead adding a little measure of cushion.

I been doing it wrong for 40+ years as well, add oil... fuel the can and dump it in.

 

[2dogs]

I have had great results with both Tru Fuel (40:1 1nd 50:1) and VP SEF.

 

[1Alpha1]

No matter how low the gas prices drop, we ain't gonna see canned fuel prices dropping at all. One isn't tied to the other, market wise.

 

[Spawn]

Let it ride to the woods in the back of my truck. You won't need no more shakin'.

 

[Four Paws]

AVgas...nothing better.