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[Ekka]

:chatter:

Good Lord, you guys are truely amazing.

It may mean little to you guys (Americans) but the issue is greater than arguing about the Australian AQF system.

What you are witnessing is the typical tripe of OOMT coming from a position of ignorance and arrogance about something I know rather well, that is the issue and has been multiple times in the past on many other subjects. When you have some-one this stubborn and self righteous then often you just walk away and not care, but when the person screams his crap from the soapbox unchecked that requires some "pegging back".

 

[JohN Dee]

And yet you left it off the list of safe practises above and claim that standing out of the kickback line is not possible when limbing a felled tree.....:

That was a list of how to reduce kickback not a direct safe practices list.

Isn't it funny with all of the questions you have been asked, none have been answered by yourself.

I have had a positive input. I have contributed more then my own time and arrogance, unlike yourself.

Put up or shut up, dumb ass.

 

[outofmytree]

And (as usual) fail to present any evidence to the contrary other than lip service, this question conveniently left unanswered... Find me where it says RTC2304a is a pre requisite for RTF3028a.

I could have gotten my cert II and III without even having completed that unit, but it is packaged in with TAFE certs.

Even your clone miniEkka had to admit that chainsaw basics are an integral part of certification in Australia. Splitting hairs does not make you right it simply proves you foolish. You are in an arbor forum screaming at the top of your lungs that arborists in Australia do not have to know how to use a chainsaw?? You are all alone with your clone on that one.

My point is and has always been that the OP's video needs editing or reshooting if he is to use it to present a professional image. Once again you make it obvious that your mission here is not to help the OP but to pursue your own agenda.

 

[outofmytree]

That was a list of how to reduce kickback not a direct safe practices list.

Isn't it funny with all of the questions you have been asked, none have been answered by yourself.

I have had a positive input. I have contributed more then my own time and arrogance, unlike yourself.

Put up or shut up, dumb ass.

You need a new tune miniEkka. Go back and read the answers I posted. You don't have to like them, but they are still correct.

 

[Ekka]

<Yawn>

Still cant answer the question.

How about this then.

You can go do a Dip Arb, Level 5 straight off the bat. Yep, some people can and do shoot straight for that, but according to you that's not possible, oh such a bubble you live in!

Like I said, expert idiot!

 

[outofmytree]

<Yawn>

Still cant answer the question.

How about this then.

You can go do a Dip Arb, Level 5 straight off the bat. Yep, some people can and do shoot straight for that, but according to you that's not possible, oh such a bubble you live in!

Like I said, expert idiot!

:chatter:

Awwww. Sorry to burst your bubble Ekka, but after years of whining about how arb qualifications should be comprehensive and skill linked you will get no support for promoting a "go to Dip Arb, collect $200" about face. If you can't use a chainsaw, you shouldnt be in this game. Funny that you picked the unlocked left thumb and I picked keeping your body out of the kickback line both of which come STRAIGHT FROM THE STIHL OWNERS MANUAL. I guess in Ekka world you can only point out these errors if you have the Ekka stamp of approval.

 

[JohN Dee]

No body is supporting jumping straight to their Dip Arb, just merely pointing out that one can with no pre requisite.

No body is saying that chainsaw basics should be avoided, just that they can be avoided.

Look at your example of Operate and maintain chainsaws being a pre requisite for specialist amenity pruning. It does not have a pre-requisite. In the unit break down it does not mention chainsaw use anywhere.

What pruning tools and equipment are likely to be used?

Pruning tools and equipment may include secateurs, pruners, handsaws, steps, chippers and mulchers.

This just goes to show that you do little to no research on topic matters, and if you were a loyal valuable member of this forum especially when you are "trying to represent the Aussie minority" on this forum you would be more thorough instead you are a hack mate. A hack. If you aren't trained under the AQF system, hand back your franchise and start over.

Oh by the way, think about this one dumb ass. Blocking down a vertical pole or even ground lining a stump - using the saw horizontally. Ya can't get out of the way of the potential kickback line. So you employ proper techniques to avoid kickback in the first place and if it does kick, your wrist activates the chain brake.

 

[outofmytree]

ground lining a stump - using the saw horizontally. Ya can't get out of the way of the potential kickback line. So you employ proper techniques to avoid kickback in the first place and if it does kick, your wrist activates the chain brake.

I would love to see a picture of you lying on your side operating a rear handle saw in order to have your wrist in the way of the manual brake control. Once again you demonstrate that your qualifications allow you to speak but do not equip you with wisdom.

Now back to the OP.

He was limbing a vertical stick. Are you now saying that it is NOT possible to position your body so it is out of the kickback line? Go to jail, go directly to jail do not pass go do not collect 44AQF points

 

[JohN Dee]

I would love to see a picture of you lying on your side operating a rear handle saw in order to have your wrist in the way of the manual brake control. Once again you demonstrate that your qualifications allow you to speak but do not equip you with wisdom.

Lol, there will be no lying on my side, dumb ass. Once again I will gladly go out of my way and take a photo and maybe even a video of it to prove you wrong to the global arborist community. And I've never said or implied not once, that my qualifications equip me with wisdom, again dumb ass.

He was limbing a vertical stick. Are you now saying that it is NOT possible to position your body so it is out of the kickback line? Go to jail, go directly to jail do not pass go do not collect 44AQF points

Not what I was saying at all, read between the lines dumb ass. Bucking down a vertical pole by using your chain saw horizontally to cut blocks. You can not be out of the kick back line. Unless you are an advocate of cutting above your head?

What he displayed in the video, yes he could get his body out of the potential kick back line - easily.

I see no come back to other statements, because you know you are wrong.

What is the matter dumb ass, running out of words?

If you aren't trained under the AQF system, hand back your franchise and start over.

 

[Ekka]

<Yawn, once again>

And hence some age old wisdoms that go like this.

Mathew 7:6

“Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces."

Or the common day version ...

let sleeping dogs lie

Back to bed OOMT, your an embarrassment to human thought. :monkey:

 

[outofmytree]

<Yawn, once again>

And hence some age old wisdoms that go like this.



Or the common day version ...



Back to bed OOMT, your an embarrassment to human thought. :monkey:

You and miniEkka are fun. Does he hump your leg too? All this waffle and still you cannot come clean and admit that what I said regarding the OP video was correct and the ONLY reason you got nasty was because I don't fall down and worship at your 44AQF points.

 

[outofmytree]

What he displayed in the video, yes he could get his body out of the potential kick back line - easily.

Just as it says in the Stihl chainsaw operators manual. Which is what I told you a couple of dozen posts ago. Once again you prove me correct.

I've never said or implied not once, that my qualifications equip me with wisdom

Just as well, otherwise you would have been committing yet another feux pas.

Lol, there will be no lying on my side, dumb ass. Once again I will gladly go out of my way and take a photo and maybe even a video of it to prove you wrong to the global arborist community.

using the saw horizontally. Ya can't get out of the way of the potential kickback line. So you employ proper techniques to avoid kickback in the first place and if it does kick, your wrist activates the chain brake.

I will really enjoy seeing those photos which show your left wrist engaging the brake manually whilst the saw is horizontal. Please feel free to post this tricky piece of contortionism at your earliest convenience.

 

[Ekka]

<even more yawning ..... and a stretch>

Gee, seems the urinal empties into your posts OOMT. :hmm3grin2orange:


:notrolls2:

 

[outofmytree]

<even more yawning ..... and a stretch>

Gee, seems the urinal empties into your posts OOMT. :hmm3grin2orange:


:notrolls2:

:spam:

 

[tree MDS]

You and miniEkka are fun. Does he hump your leg too? All this waffle and still you cannot come clean and admit that what I said regarding the OP video was correct and the ONLY reason you got nasty was because I don't fall down and worship at your 44AQF points.

Now that was pretty funny. :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[treeseer]

Now that was pretty funny. :hmm3grin2orange:

Yeah it was...if Pissing Contests becomes an Olympic sport, Australia is sure to sweep gold, silver and bronze.

Treeboggan, thanks for posting. That video should impress clients with your skill at blocking down trees. The details like one-handing and grabbing (I prefer using the tip to guide the butt away) are important to tree guys but not clients.

Do you use any Ergo-Schnitt tools?

 

[Boa07]

if Pissing Contests becomes an Olympic sport, Australia is sure to sweep gold, silver and bronze

Hmmmm......maybe, but I very seriously doubt that there is much difference between us...in that particular regard...based on the colour of our passports matey.

 

[treeseer]

Hmmmm......maybe, but I very seriously doubt that there is much difference between us...in that particular regard...based on the colour of our passports matey.

not the whole island sean; it only would take 3 to sweep and you must admit there are some very dedicated pissers over there.

but that was hyperbole and i apologize to you and your civil countryfolk. :censored:

 

[Ekka]

Awwww. Sorry to burst your bubble Ekka, but after years of whining about how arb qualifications should be comprehensive and skill linked you will get no support for promoting a "go to Dip Arb, collect $200" about face. If you can't use a chainsaw, you shouldnt be in this game.

I have let this lie for some time now however succumb to comment as I cannot let a fallacy dominate fact. There is no about face, just knowledge and competence that OOMT doesn't have nor is experienced or qualified to discuss.

From:- http://www.ntis.gov.au/Default.aspx.../volume/RTF03_3/chapter/QualFrameworkMandText

You can see entry to all levels, not my criteria but the AQTF criteria.

Now some-one like OOMT may ridicule it, or the messenger but there's reasons for things (which stupid people rarely ask for).

if Pissing Contests becomes an Olympic sport, Australia is sure to sweep gold, silver and bronze.

When one equates a pissing contest to differentiating between fact and fiction then we understand why some mentalities go to war over fantasies not facts. There's no pissing contest here, unless you are delirious. :notrolls2:

 

[ForTheArborist]

The video has great camera work, and the pip in the corner of the view is a great addition. The material in the main view and the pip could be modified towards the random, know nothing customer than towards tree climbing fanatics.

5 minutes is too drawn out for customers. The don't care about the nuances in the techniques. They don't even know what those are for even if you show them off.

Just flash through the whole job in a minute or minute and a half. Make the job look hard, tedious, and so dangerous only those heros can pull this kind of work off. Make it look as though you are are a bunch of pros though. Briefly flash all of this before their eyes, and there will be no way in hell they can assume your work is worth less than what it is.

The camera work was clear and steady. Good job.