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mrastaples

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Hello All..... I need help with identifying just what this is on this pine tree. It is on my property and I am trying to find out if it is something that I should remove. It's not just on this one Pine, but about 500' away, there is also an Oak with the same anomaly. Only these 2 trees have these odd "rings". I posted it on Facebook, and have no arborists on my list, and some seem convinced that it is the result of vines or wire wrapped around it when it was young, or even scars from some other sort of damage. I don't believe that to be the issue. If you look closely, you can see numerous other places between the rings where there are less pronounced bulges that seem to have not developed as much as the large rings. I suspect that it is either a result of some sort of insect infestation(though I think less of this theory, because no other nearby trees seem effected), or it is a disease or genetic defect.

Can anyone qualified help with this? I don't want to leave these 2 tree's if this condition might spread.

Thanks so very much in advance, for any reply!!

Sincerely,
mrastaples


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I'm hoping that SOMEONE can offer a genuine assessment of this condition. So far, I'm getting the same guesses I got on FB from laymen.
 
moondoggie said:
A gentleman I see:hi:
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I don't mean to offend, and apologize if I have... I just want someone who is familiar with tree diseases or genetics or infestations to give an assessment. I'm a surveyor and have worked in the woods and seen odd tree anomalies for dozens of years, but this is not a scar from fencing, zip line, rubbing, animal clawing or rut.... It just doesn't fit the criteria... and the intermediate bulges tell me that it's an internal situation. Eghhh....
 
Perhaps.... Something like this.

Growing free



When we had the nephews at the farm two weeks ago, the tall one and I went to work on task #10 on the fall to-do list: remove stakes from established trees and stake the new trees that we planted this spring. The first step was to unshackle the trees from the cuffs that were wrapped around them. Some were tied with rope, some had sections of garden hose, some had wire. All were snug. Some were strangling. It was quite an arboreal torture chamber we were running here.

No tree emerged unscathed. Some are simply scarred.



Others are permanently deformed.



We cut the wires and hoses and ropes out of the trees as best we could. Where we ran into trouble was the stakes. The nephew and I did fairly well on the first few trees rocking the stakes back and forth to loosen them up and then pulling them out in a coordinated effort. However, after he left and it was up to Matt and me, the rest of the stakes held strong.

We must have been missing the magic touch, because no matter how much we wiggled the stakes we couldn’t get them to budge.

In desperation, Matt went and got Wiley, and I found a rope. We tied the rope to the stake and attached the other end to Wiley’s loader. Then Matt raised the bucket, the rope snapped, and the stake stayed where it was.

I went and got a chain. We hooked everything together, and Matt raised the bucket again. And the front wheels of the tractor lifted off the ground.

We spent a while adjusting the chain, adjusting the tractor, tugging on the stake and only succeeded in bending it.



The conclusion I came to is that the stakes have been in the ground so long that the tree roots must have grown around the metal. I don’t think we’re going to get them out. Above ground, the trees are free. I can only hope they survive their ordeal and continue to grow. Matt, however, is a bit traumatized from his wheelie on the tractor, so we’re calling this job good enough for now. The rest of the stakes–removing them from the older trees and adding them to the new trees–can wait until spring.
 
moondoggie said:
I really think the tree grew around some foreign object wrapped around it long ago. A certified arborist will chime in soon.
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Then how are the bulges between the rings explained? I don't believe for a second that this is anything due to girdling or the like... lol... I hope we can get a good explanation.. It has caused quite the controversy on my FB page! lol
 
Raintree said:
There you go, callous tissue formed over sapsucker wounding.
Now post a pic of that oak with the same issue.
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Can do, but it'll have to wait until Monday, as I'm out of town. The rings/wounds on the oak are identical in their form. If the pine issue is due to a sapsucker, then can the same be said for the oak? (This is in Richmond, Virginia, by the way)
 
gary courtney said:
i believe your getting "genuine" assessments !
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I know.. I know.. and again, I don't mean to be impolite, but in my original post I mention that others have made guesses about vines, wires, etc.. and that that theory just doesn't seem to fit with the fact that there are several other smaller bulges between the big rings.
 

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