I didn't think it was to bad. I saw a few dumb mistakes that may have not happened if the camera's were not there. Those guys sure do work hard though, I would like to try that for a few weeks. I look forward to watching the other shows.
Thanks for the info on twisters P. I use those alot in fencing but we used a different technique with the yarder.We used to layout and work on pretty much vertical ground. I am glad we don't anymore. Things got too crazy. I'm not going to criticize them for that.
Steep is what you are not used to working on. I was delighted when I went from Oregon to the Midwest to find that 30% was extreme. A lot easier on the body.
Trying to unkink the line while the helicopter was pulling it? I wonder if the guy was trying to show off? The one with the radio looked plumb worried to me and that would be real.
High stumping the leaner? I wouldn't worry about it unless I found pieces all over the place. Then we'd have a civilized chat.
But, motorized carriages are a weak link. They take a lot of abuse, but will break down more than anything else. You bang them around too much and parts will come loose, like the radio antenna and they won't work. The other common breakdown is the clamping mechanism will freeze and you've got 900 pounds of metal stuck on the skyline halfway down the hill. I've seen a crew repeatedly ram the carriage into a tail tree, then wonder why it broke down a lot. They really need to be more careful with it.
A twister is a doubled up piece of haywire, hooked from the tailhold to another tree or stump. You grab a thick limb, about 4 inches thick by 3 feet, put it in the middle of the two lines and twist them tight. This reinforces the tailhold and makes it less likely to pull. The tricky part is undoing the twister.
We have shallower soils here and one (big enough to probably not be gypo)outfit really goes crazy with the twisters but they haven't had problems pulling over tail trees either. Well, till the snow melts, this show is all the logging I'm going to be around. At least I'm not having to wade through the brush to view it. Much easier on the shins this way.
Hello all; I have posted on this quote only because I have read and seen the term " gypo " used in many threads and being from the East coast of Canada I am not familiar with its meaning. Would someone that knows what it means kindly explain it for me. I have worked the woods all my life and know there is different terminology used all across America and just like to know what people use this term for. Many thanks in advance. Pioneerguy600Well, I watched it and felt like yelling at the one crew. Why didn't they have their carriage tied off to the tube when they were walking the Madill up the road? Looked like they were dragging it along which is not good for a motorized carriage. That was the Pihl crew, which was most like the small gypo outfits around here. Also, the helicopter would most likely hit the disconnect switch dropping the lines before "Plummeting to the ground."
Other than the narration, pretty realistic so far. It is strange to see stumpholds without twisters hooked to them and roads that aren't rocked.
The grumbling of the chaser who had to go back in the brush was normal. Just couldn't stand the carriage abuse.:bang:
Thanks much Gologit; I thought it may have some connection to the term " gypsy" as in always on the move. The term " tramping " was used on this coast in a similar way. Pioneerguy600It usually means a small, independent logger, as opposed to one of the major companies, like Weyerhauser or Sierra Pacific.
The big companies hire the smaller companies, gypos, to do the actual logging.
It's also used to describe small trucking outfits.
The derivation of the word is subject to debate but it's usually not used in an insulting manner unless you want to fight. As in... I can call myself a gypo but if you call me one you better smile when you say that, partner.
Some people claim it came from the word "gypsy" which is what a lot of the old time loggers were...they moved from place to place following the work. Other people claim it comes from the word gyp...to cheat or swindle.
Another school of thought is that it came from Georgia Pacific Operations.
Take your pick...it's an ancient term that seems predominant on the Left Coast.
Hope this helps.
