Synthetic winch rope question.

[Mustang71]

Any one use it? How does it hold compared to steel cable? I'm looking to guide a few leaning trees down to the direction I want them. Not pull them down just put a little strain on them while I cut. I've used nylon rope but it stretches a lot.

Basically for 40 dollars I can get 100 ft of 5/16 steel cable or 100 ft of 1/4 winch rope.

 

[hedge hog]

What is the rating for the steel 5/16 to 1/4 synthetic rope
I have use 1" and was impressed with it


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[Mustang71]

The rope is 7000lbs the cable is 9800lbs but that's assuming it's in good shape and not rusted. I broke the winch cable on the atv last winter with the plow on it because it was rusty.

 

[hedge hog]

The rope still has a little stretch but nothing like nylon


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[Mustang71]

Yea from what I've been reading it doesn't snap like a cable. A 100 foot cable breaking while I'm cutting or other person is winching could be deadly. Id like a nice 1 inch rope but they are not cheap and usually I don't need a rope.

 

[JeffGu]

Samson Amsteel is $1.50/ft. for 5/16", $2.30/ft. for 3/8" and $3.90/ft. for 1/2" and like all of these Dyneema lines, it's expensive for a reason.
5/16" = 13,700 LBS. AVG BS
3/8" = 19,600 LBS. AVG BS
1/2" = 34,000 LBS. AVG BS

Those are pretty impressive breaking strength figures, considering the diameters.

It's good stuff. Very lightweight, very strong, very easy to work with. Also, very easy to splice without any special tools.

 

[greengreer]

I'd take dyneema over steel any day but for just pulling trees over a 1/2" polyester double braid is a better option (unless you are actually using a winch).

 

[Mustang71]

Just a come along to hold the tension. Like I said I just want to put some stress on it while I cut not pull it down. I've done ok with cheap harbor freight rope but I don't like the stretch and there's not much strenght

 

[Mustang71]

I'd take dyneema over steel any day but for just pulling trees over a 1/2" polyester double braid is a better option (unless you are actually using a winch).

Looks strong why do u think it's better?

 

[greengreer]

It knots better with less slippage, is not self abrading, cheaper, more durable, and plenty strong for pulling trees over. Most are 10,000 lbs mbs and less than $1 per foot

 

[derwoodii]

i use rope tho my chipper winch weekly to pull trees its great flexible strong easy to work,,, get a chain choker to save end wear or just dont worry if its 1 buck a yard

 

[Mustang71]

That's what I'm going to get then. Looks like it's called the arborist rope since it's used for rigging trees down.

 

[Mustang71]

i use rope tho my chipper winch weekly to pull trees its great flexible strong easy to work,,, get a chain choker to save end wear or just dont worry if its 1 buck a yard

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Good to hear. I'd like a nice rope because steel cable always seems to be dangerous and a pain to work with.

 

[ATH]

Arborist rigging rope has more stretch than arborisf climbing rope... rock climbing rope also has more stretch.

 

[Mustang71]

Arborist rigging rope has more stretch than arborisf climbing rope... rock climbing rope also has more stretch.

So what are u recommending for rope to guide a leaning tree in the right direction? I have one tree in mind but more to come. Some stretch is ok with no breaking.

 

[jefflovstrom]

Samson Amsteel is $1.50/ft. for 5/16", $2.30/ft. for 3/8" and $3.90/ft. for 1/2" and like all of these Dyneema lines, it's expensive for a reason.
5/16" = 13,700 LBS. AVG BS
3/8" = 19,600 LBS. AVG BS
1/2" = 34,000 LBS. AVG BS

Those are pretty impressive breaking strength figures, considering the diameters.

It's good stuff. Very lightweight, very strong, very easy to work with. Also, very easy to splice without any special tools.

You beat me to it, Gu,,that is what I would suggest
Jeff

 

[Mustang71]

Well here's the thing I can buy a rope or buy casters and move the shed for 40 dollars so either way the tree will come down on the cheap side I spent all my money on saws...

 

[greengreer]

What rope are you looking at? Stretch all depends on construction and materials.
Check out samson stablebraid or new england sta-set for a lower stretch rope.
Stretch can be a really good thing if you use it to your advantage, I use polydyne alot in pulling trees over. Samson true blue is a 12 strand and will stretch like a rubber band. Super durable amd pretty inexpensive

 

[ATH]

So what are u recommending for rope to guide a leaning tree in the right direction? I have one tree in mind but more to come. Some stretch is ok with no breaking.

You said you didn't like stretching ropes. Just letting you know rigging rope is designed to have stretch. the idea is that you tie off a big piece of wood, cut it and let it drop so the rope catches it. You WANT stretch in your rope when that happens. Kinda like bungee jumping. If you tried that with a non-stretching rope, your lower legs would still be tied in while the rest of you is on the ground.

If you are looking for a rope to just pull, I'd want something with little or no stretch. I want it to pull when I say pull. With stretch in the rope, you have to get that out before it pulls on the other end.

 

[greengreer]

That's a bit broad and over generalized.
Not all rigging ropes are stretchy or designed just for negative blocking. Just like climb lines, some are more static than others. You need to look at construction, materials, and manufacturers specs.