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  1. Ekka

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    Bla bla bla, when it comes to putting your money where your mouth is you ...... chickened out. :greenchainsaw: ​

    In this world you usually pay to learn and grow.

    You try to justify your motives by your sites revenue or achievement but that has NOTHING TO DO with this. :laugh: And you have turned your back and walked away from one of the best kept secrets of SEO. Bravo. :clap:

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    BOYS BOYS...that's quite a pissing contest!!!! I declare you both winners. Isn't all this something anyone can find out from a web guy...doesn't cost THAT much. No reply necessary...
    Cindy...just the girl in the office
     
  3. Ekka

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    If so, then why tell people the wrong thing?

    Why say I'm full of chit?
     
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    Ekka, He is a Windbag plain & simple!!!

    If with a flick you can put this "mosquito" where you want him Im all up for that!!! C`mon over to PA.

    Ya see, M.D, I know your type......yep I do!!

    you have no physical skills to do what you lead people to beleive you do!!
    You have only knowledge that you read because you cant & dont know how to apply it!!

    You are one of the typical BS types, you`re smart, sly & shrewd & the only true gift(if ya call it that) you have is the gift of gab, your types dont last long, they`ll move on in a new direction once its discovered they`re full of it!!

    Did it ever occur to you that most people on here think of you as an arrogant knowitall? & in private talk about you really knowing nothing!! your posts are long winded & when condensed show how little you really know!!

    M.D, you have blinded some with BS & have made money from it, you are an ignorant, untrained, incapable person who relies on putting together words that you havent the slightest clue of their meaning to earn yourself an otherwise undeserving living!!

    The best thing I have seen come from you is pictures & I gotta wonder if those arent some BS scam? you talk a good game........I keep making the offer for you & your big mouth! Ill Pay to get you here, room & board, teach me ohh self proclaimed great one!! your website says you travel, train & teach........how much? LOL!!!! if you ever muster the courage Im inviting all AS & will throw an after party....after you looking foolish that is!!


    LXT................put up or shut up!!
     
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    LMFAO in regards to making money off your site!! your site falsely advertises!! I have publicly asked & offered for you to teach & train but no comment!! How come? LOL We all know that answer!!!!


    LXT.................
     
  6. M.D. Vaden

    M.D. Vaden vadenphotography.com

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    You know why I'd never take a class from you, but would from the professional outfit in Grants Pass? They list WHAT they would teach. All their talk is geared to what they will do and provided for OTHERS.

    Your replies here, are all about YOURSELF.

    Your style shows that you like to complain, that you like to insult, that you like to criticize.

    So there are dozens better than you, and several of which would be far better selections for examples and teaching.

    Who cares what people say behind my back.

    In my city, the one's who do that, are like the landscape contractor how was exposed for planting trees in a circle of tree root barrier like planting a tree in pot - with several inches of river rock dumped in the hole. And he got in trouble for it and had to change. But he talks behind my back, and blames me for his trouble. The other one who I found talks behind my back locally, is the big tree service that basically went out of business. The only "arborist" whose company's work I could take over, and find decay branches remaining so rotted I could squeeze them like a sponge.

    So when you refer to people talking behind my back, I get a picture in mind of a batch of insignificant complainers and backbiters. Basically it sounds to me like a bunch of whining weenies the way you put it. You decribe it in a way that paints a picture that you just complain in hidden back rooms with others that complain about the same thing.

    Those are exactly the enemies I want.

    Why not name them while you are at it. Wait, let me put it this way: why didn't you already name them?

    Feel free to talk behind my back. It's about as deep a hiding place as someone can run for cover. And what happens in the hiding places, I don't care.

    Yeah.... I figured it may have irked some folks when I posted a new page and new images. It's definitely not what they would have hoped for to bolster their egos.

    You personally talked to like 10,000 members? Certainly not all of Arboristsite's 21,000 member will still participate. But there are thousands of visitors to the forum. So did you like do a survey? Or is it really just a handful of people you chat with, that you inflated to "most" people on here. Because the people "on" here include visitor numbers that even exceed the member numbers. I don't have to "wonder" that I don't believe you.

    When you can get past whether you "wonder" or not, let us know.

    For now, for what little you have in your user profile, you could be D. Cheney or Barak Obama for all we know.

    Now take Ekka on the other hand. He's not in the closet. For the more part, we can really see who he is and what he does. He is verifiable. So between agreements and disagreements with Ekka, at least we have an idea of whether he's fictional or not. That's why I exchange ideas with Ekka here, as well as on his own site.
     
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    Maybe you should look at my posts more carefully!! I show what I can do!! you`re the computer wiz find my posts!!

    I wasnt wanting you to come to PA for me to teach you!! I wanted you to come to PA to teach me!! You indeed are arrogant & I would like to see if you are as good as you think you are!!

    As far as my ability, Ill prove it in the field....while Im out making money you`re sitting at home trying to figure out ways to scam people on your website!!!

    I have put my dues in with all the big tree care companies in the utility realm & the residential realm, I continue to learn(unlike you) I have trained many an up and coming climber, my resume has been earned in the field not forged at my computer!!!!

    If you need to check on my ability all you need to do is ask any of the Line clearance guys in the Pittsburgh PA area IBEW Local 1919!!! or Duquesne Light co. as they refer me alot of work also!!

    LOL...............you`re funny.................and talentless


    LXT........
     
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    There are many better than I, But guess what?.......Ill be teaching at the community college in the fall of 2008, the class will be for Line Clearance Tree Trimmers & will be funded partially by career link of PA!!

    No! I didnt talk to all AS members...........ah..Mcfly....how do you think I got most of my Rep points lately!!! Cause I helped show that you are a bladder full of hot air, so hey Ill keep taking rep for that!! LMFAO

    Dont feel bad Mario..........you just keep getting hit with the barrels...so we all can laugh!!!


    LXT...............
     
  9. M.D. Vaden

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    Well Bravo for you.

    I taught at the college here in 2005 to 2007 for Tree Care and Arboriculture, and the course content was approved by the ISA for CEU credits in the Certified Arborist category ....

    And that class or yours, are both irrelevant for this thread.

    Neither class deals with your comment about "most" members.

    And so how many members did you survey to back up your comment of "most"?

    Now don't mention my college course nor yours. Both amount to Zilch on this one. Neither one covers your statement earlier.

    Personally, I think you shot the hole under your nose when you said "most". Even without statistics, I'm willing to take the position that you just jumped the gun about "most". I'm convinced that who you refer to as "most", are not a group of in excess of 10,000 people, but probably amount to a dozen or so users of this forum.

    If that's indeed the fact, an I'm not in "wonder" about it but am 100% convinced, then I'd be cautious about material that you presented in a class.

    Not like anybody would really care about this 2 person debate. But a few might really take notice to compare your "most" to the actual user numbers of this forum, and wonder how you could really have discussions with that many hundreds or thousands of users. Let alone general discussion - not even just about mdvaden.

    So while you talk about both "barrels" and "laughing", a few of us might actually be reading the text and user stats.

    If anybody is curious about "most", this is the quote of LTX that was focused on ...

     
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    And double bravo for you!!!:clap: your class was for CEU`s mine will be so people get JOBS!!!!

    Survey.........survey you ask:dizzy: the more you post just solidifies our thoughts of you!!! I beleive I answered your questions, Ohh did you find those posts?.........different isnt it.....someone who actually works when pictures are taken........I cant find any of you!!! how come? LOL!!!!!

    It will be ok Mario, Just because we/most of us know who & what you are wont affect our humankind, we are forgiving........Now all you have to do is apologize for your silly stupidity!!! silly rabbit, tricks are for kids!!!

    LXT.......................whoo wee.....the computer gardner is mad!!!
     
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    You are really concerned here M.D ole boy!!! Wellllllll not just on this particular forum.......there are other forums on this site, right? you tell me teacher!!!

    I love that quote mario!!! I think you should use it as your Sig. line, then you could start a poll thread...........and the results would be in!!

    Hey if you would......add to my quoted post about you being"A bladder full of hot air" I think this would really gain attention for you & telling the truth will set you free!!!

    LXT................Man Im having :censored: fun!!!
     
  12. M.D. Vaden

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    What I'm going to do, is still focus on your "most".

    I'm certain that you inflated a few dozen "cronies" of yours into 10,000.

    What I wouldn't know, is if in this utility worker class that you will teach, is if dozens will be inflated to hundreds. Or thousands inflated to tens of thousands. But what is available is to read what's written here. And I think you are writing opinions about yourself and cronies and others, that are stretched beyond what actually occured.

    See, I'm not going to get into name calling and stuff.

    Right now, I'm going to stick to your "most". And "most" on arboristsite.com exceeds 10,000 people, or half of over 20,000 people in the member stats.

    Just sticking to the numbers for right now. One subject at a time.

    Hey, add to your own signature what fits your fancy. If that's the style you like, pick the style you want. But the name calling and whatever, there are other users on these forums that do enough of that already. Some users like to focus on that angle, and some of us don't.

    Name calling is not a forum game I practice, and I don't even suggest it to others I disagree with as a joke or suggestion.
     
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    MMmmm......the word most, well I think you answered your own question, Now does "most" refer to this thread? or does it refer to the entire site?

    you have to be more specific, See heres where you get all discombobulated little fella!! see my post said "most people on here" Now your futile argument could be about the word "here" does "here" mean this thread? or does it mean the site as a whole?

    what does "most here" mean?, well I guess it could have several answers, this thread, all threads, threads you start, threads you post in, etc..etc..

    see mario...... I am very thorough & thats why my "class" would be better than yours, your attention to detail is in the wrong place & learning from you would be just a waste of time & money cause your focus is wrong!!

    now now......it`ll be ok little fella, your mistake!! dont worry im sure you`re use to it:cry:

    well with that done & explained, how bout those Pic`s of you doing some tree work:clap: post up ole boy!! LOL!!!


    LXT............
     
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    :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

    :buttkick:


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    OK, I have been off line some 22hours due to router/modem busted and work.

    Wow, MD's getting beaten up. :jawdrop:

    Hey, Mario, I'm going hard on the topic here.

    Ranking for keywords not on your site, imagine that, can it be done .... YES. It can be done.

    But you say NO.

    No-one wants to bet and one other says the answer is on the net. Of course it is, but like everything you need to find it.

    Have fun finding it. And when you do think you've found it perhaps PM me and I'll let you know. And when you know, keep it to yourself if you want to outrank competitors. :)

    Happy hunting. :popcorn:
     
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    That's not exactly what I said. In a technical sense, yes, in one spot. For general purpose - with all my replies in an entire context, no.

    And I even PM'd you to forewarn you that you may have missed something I wrote.

    One example of ranking without a single occurance of a word on a website, would be Adobe in first place for "click here" or how President Bush came up first for "miserable failure". So of course it's possible.

    So you are not so smart, or so ingenious as to be the prototype of introducing ideas. You might think your are. They stuff you do, and most of what we can find, is on the internet, and we all harvest it for our needs.

    But a person would be a fool to put a website online HOPING for good results from searches and at the same time OMIT even a single occurance of a word they want to be found for - say "tree" or "removal" or "pruning". And we both know that's why you and I both have multiple occurances of keywords.

    And next time you think you have some new invention of knowledge - just go ahead and ASK.

    Now just to save you some time, here's what I wrote earlier...

    If I meant "impossible" then I'd have OMITTED "virtually". That's my style. And after one or two years or reading my posts, if you really were as shrewd as you think you are, then you would have noticed how I write stuff.

    When I include "virtually", it is because the word "virtually" connotes or denotes that there is a possibility.

    This is exactly what I PM'd you about last night.

    So I already indicated the POSSIBLITY that a site could be found, clear back in one of my posts. But then you Waltz in here as if I did not say it, but somehow you are to be the magical source of knowledge via bet, or otherwise.

    So please do me a favor, and don't go telling people I don't know something, when I already have stated it in writing beforehand.

    I'm not even sure if you paused to consider who I was addressing with the suggestions, and why. But the suggestions were not addressed to folks who are going to want to invest the time that you and I do in websites. Most people don't care to approach websites with that intensely.
     
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    But you said it's impossible and there must be at least one of the keywords on your site. So now you change your tune, Italians also did that in WWII, they change sides!

    I never said I was so smart, you did, in your own words right there. I said you were wrong, and I also agreed with another poster that the answer is out there.

    I also never said I invented anything, where did I say that? You seem to make up a lot of chit as you go along dont you.

    Again you accuse me of saying I invented something, more BS and more aggression toward me for your oversights.

    I dont know what BS you are bringing here now but I got 1 PM off you and you have the same arrogant argument in that one. Trying to ram the fact that a site must have the keyword to rank for it.

    Fact is in numerous posts you flat out argued that you cannot rank for a keyword etc not on your site.

    Now that you have run off like a gutless chicken and found the answer you change your tune and try to use some mysterious PM to save your ass.

    Go and have a good read of this thread, especially this post

    http://www.arboristsite.com/showpost.php?p=907319&postcount=37

    And you will see your chit, as others see your chit and now you try to make me look the fool even insinuating I invented something and if I did not invent then I'm some schmuck. :dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy:

    Wow, you really need to take some comprehension lessons.
     
  18. M.D. Vaden

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    Ekka...

    You omitted the quote I supplied of an earlier post, showing allowance for the possiblitiy of exception or alternative. And no quotes there pertaining to the affects of other sites.

    Nobody needs to "run" for an answer like you just wrote. The Adobe and Bush examples, for example, are notoriously well known, and have been extensively published on the internet for a long time. And the results went on so long, Google's had to work to prevent it, and still has not completely erased the effect. As far as that particular style of of getting displayed without the text, if falls into what's considered blackhat work anyway. But the reason I would not introduce those here, is because the don't JUST involve a single website or JUST Google.

    And Google appears to be very content oriented, not just inbound referral related. So a high priority is content. And content begins with one single word. That's the most sensible, and safest way to approach site building. With at least a single use of a word. That establishes content. Then it develops from there.

    Those involve other people and other websites to connect the dots.

    So your comment about "flat out" may not be quite as "flat out".

    And back in square one, its still clear why our websites have not one, but multiple occurances of keywords on the page.
     
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    :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

    Im still waiting for M.D`s grand reply regarding the word "most", It is all to clear that no reply came due to the fact that his intellect.....or should I say arrogant stupidity!! was put in check!!

    Not only have I proved you to be of lesser smarts but Ekka has too!!

    Mario, I am not a computer buff by any means & it took me awhile to put up Pic`s, but I did it.... Your arguments and ridiculous points of view are all you have!! Ekka has many vid`s & Pic`s out there, I have few!! but... the fact is we walk the walk!! you talk the talk & unfortunately cant even do a good job at that!!

    you make up explanations, back pedal, go off topic, etc.. anything to try to save face!! jeesh.... If only your customers could read some of your posts, Ill bet they would hire the other guy.


    LXT................
     
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    Actually, some do read this site.

    That's how a few of them became customers. This site and a couple of others.

    So there is not much of an "if only" anymore.

    To anyone else still lurking...
     
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