What am I doing wrong?

[c5rulz]

All the time I see ads on CL for people selling wood by the cord and they have a picture of a pick me up truck claiming to have a cord of wood on it. Loose tossed wood occupies 180-190 cubic feet. Yesterday it took two loads to haul 3 measured full cord, the first had over half so I estimate this to be about 1.7 cord, the trailer is 83" x 18' and the truck box is 8'.

 

[Circle B MN]

There is in fact some questionable math on CL, as well as a whole lot of junk green wood. I appreciate these guy's efforts to increase my customer base.

 

[buzz sawyer]

They are probably referring to what some call a "face cord". 8' long, 4' high, 16" deep - actually 1/3 of a full cord.

 

[chucker]

180/190 c.f. is the measurement used for wood cut, split and stowed loosely in lengths longer(20"-24") than the common 16".... 160/170 c.f. is the common number that is used for 16" cut, split an stowed loosely.

 

[Patrick62]

That is fun.
Depending on size and length of splits, loose tossed is between 160 and 170 cubic feet. What I would do, if I were you, would be to go and stack up a full cord. Then, toss it into your trailer. build sides if you have to and see for yourself what it really takes. I have a truck 326 cubic feet (two cords) and have stacked the wood up several times on delivery, and have measured the results. last time I was at 2.03 cords... close, I would have prefered to be 5% over.... oh well. I try and "mound" my load a little, it looks nicer and probably is closer to that 170 than 163 cubic feet. I have NEVER been accused of delivering a short cord. My reputation is good, and I have repeat customers because of that.

 

[c5rulz]

They are probably referring to what some call a "face cord". 8' long, 4' high, 16" deep - actually 1/3 of a full cord.

I disagree, they are intentionally shorting people or unintentionally shorting people, None the less the result is the same.

 

[c5rulz]

That is fun.
Depending on size and length of splits, loose tossed is between 160 and 170 cubic feet. What I would do, if I were you, would be to go and stack up a full cord. Then, toss it into your trailer. build sides if you have to and see for yourself what it really takes. I have a truck 326 cubic feet (two cords) and have stacked the wood up several times on delivery, and have measured the results. last time I was at 2.03 cords... close, I would have prefered to be 5% over.... oh well. I try and "mound" my load a little, it looks nicer and probably is closer to that 170 than 163 cubic feet. I have NEVER been accused of delivering a short cord. My reputation is good, and I have repeat customers because of that.

I feel my measuring is quite accurate. Get out a tape measure, a cord is 32' of stack, two 12' stacks, three 8, or four 6' stacks.

 

[Circle B MN]

I feel my measuring is quite accurate. Get out a tape measure, a cord is 32' of stack, two 12' stacks, three 8, or four 6' stacks.

24' = cord
2x12=24
3x8=24
4x6=24

I expect the 32' you mention is in error, and it was your intention to state 24'.

 

[jrider]

That is fun.
Depending on size and length of splits, loose tossed is between 160 and 170 cubic feet. What I would do, if I were you, would be to go and stack up a full cord. Then, toss it into your trailer. build sides if you have to and see for yourself what it really takes. I have a truck 326 cubic feet (two cords) and have stacked the wood up several times on delivery, and have measured the results. last time I was at 2.03 cords... close, I would have prefered to be 5% over.... oh well. I try and "mound" my load a little, it looks nicer and probably is closer to that 170 than 163 cubic feet. I have NEVER been accused of delivering a short cord. My reputation is good, and I have repeat customers because of that.

I'm all about having a good name and I do as well but I won't give extra wood just to be safe. I sell over 100 cords each year and 5% over would really start to add up.

 

[chucker]

I'm all about having a good name and I do as well but I won't give extra wood just to be safe. I sell over 100 cords each year and 5% over would really start to add up.

!!! and less then a full cord* by no fault, can spread even faster then the + or - in a load!!! in excess of 5% is cheap advertisement.

 

[c5rulz]

24' = cord
2x12=24
3x8=24
4x6=24

I expect the 32' you mention is in error, and it was your intention to state 24'.

Gotta say you got me there, call me Mr. Dumass.

 

[Deleted member 117362]

Gotta say you got me there, call me Mr. Dumass.

Do you deliver to Michigan?

 

[jomoco]

My firewood buddies tell me the big bucks are made bundling, with carry handles, pink bows n ribbons.

Said Californy is the place yu oughtta be,

A bit like havin a huge paper route.

Jomoco

 

[Mustang71]

Around here a cord of wood means face cord that's how it's all sold. So a pick up truck full of loose stacked wood would be a cord I guess. Ask someone how much wood they burn and they are almost always talking about a face cords.

 

[ChoppyChoppy]

Around here a cord of wood means face cord that's how it's all sold. So a pick up truck full of loose stacked wood would be a cord I guess. Ask someone how much wood they burn and they are almost always talking about a face cords.

I traded a cord of wood for a nice chainsaw a few weeks ago.

Well.. the guy was expecting a face cord, not a cord.

As far as loading it loose in the truck, I won't do it and sell it as x cords.
I've hauled wood home loose, measured it out in the truck just for s&gs. It worked to "around" 175-200 cu ft per cord.
Too much guessing. 25 cu ft of foot is $55. Times that by 500 cords, that's ~27,000.

Stacking a cord is about an hr of work, we'll worth it. Plus the debris coming off the conveyor can get cleaned out and the wood inspected.

It's also a CYA for less than honest customers. Quite easy for someone to say, "hey that loose load was 1/4 cord short". Where when it's stacked in the truck, that's not possible.

 

[buzz sawyer]

I disagree, they are intentionally shorting people or unintentionally shorting people, None the less the result is the same.

I don't doubt there are those who would do this but have you contacted any of them asking what they mean by a cord?

 

[turnkey4099]

All the time I see ads on CL for people selling wood by the cord and they have a picture of a pick me up truck claiming to have a cord of wood on it. Loose tossed wood occupies 180-190 cubic feet. Yesterday it took two loads to haul 3 measured full cord, the first had over half so I estimate this to be about 1.7 cord, the trailer is 83" x 18' and the truck box is 8'.

A cord of wood on a pickiup with racks is doable volume wise but ?weight?. I delivered two cords to a new customer yesterday loading off of measured 1 cord ricks. My truck racks ae cab high plus and inch or two. Took two full loads and less than a half load to finish. HOWEVER, that was well cured willow and my F150 was well overloaded even then.

 

[farmer steve]

I don't doubt there are those who would do this but have you contacted any of them asking what they mean by a cord?

i'm just a Richard head and i do it all the time to the "questionable" C/L ads. i really question the ones that have a pile that the tree service left in their yard. "2 cords. should fit in your pick-up" all you firewood sellers need to bug these shysters.

All the time I see ads on CL for people selling wood by the cord and they have a picture of a pick me up truck claiming to have a cord of wood on it. Loose tossed wood occupies 180-190 cubic feet. Yesterday it took two loads to haul 3 measured full cord, the first had over half so I estimate this to be about 1.7 cord, the trailer is 83" x 18' and the truck box is 8'.
c5 i know it is a PITA but i wood stack a cord and the throw it in your truck/trailer and take a pic of it so you know about what you need to throw on for your cord sale.

 

[Mustang71]

I've loaded the 8 foot bed of my truck and my 5x8 trailer and that's about a cord. That's some weight too. Loaded a 14ft dump trailer loosely and that was about a cord but that was a heavy haul for the f150. Good thing for the 4:10 years. A 8 foot box loaded is about 1.5 face cords. If you stack it in the back I'm sure you can get more but the weight will get ya.

 

[c5rulz]

These two pics have exactly one face cord in them. The first is a 6 x 10' trailer, the 2nd is an 8' box of a F250