ArboristSite.com Sponsors
 
 



 

 


Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: Broke a wheel

  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    MinivanFan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Eastern PA
    Posts
    131
    Credits
    10

    Broke a wheel

    FYI if your trailer starts to make a knocking sound while carrying a heavy load stop and check the studs on the hubs.

    On our last trip bringing wood home we made a right hand turn about 3 o4 miles from home and got up to around 35 or 40. a little more then a mile from home we started to hear a knocking but since we were only a mile or so from our driveway we kept going. a few hunderd feet down the road the driver side wheel broke off and the left side of the trailer slammed agenst the road. we out dad slowed dowwn and stopped and we watched the wheel go flying into the woods along the road, luckly nobody was in the oncoming lane. luckly we had a small 2 1/2 ton jack in the van so we jacked up the trailer and managed to get the wheel back on with only two studs (the other three bkoke off). we were then able to limp the rast of the way home, stopping twice to retighten the lugnuts. this happened on probuly the worst part of the road since there was no real shoulder and we had to crawl at 5mph along a bend in the road where people usealy do 55.


    after we drug the trailer a little more then 50 feet



    the bolts that hit the ground

    i really wish i took more pictures but i was busy keeping a eye of traffic and helping with the trailer.

    Also, can anyone tell me what axle is on the trailer? i think it is a 4'' underslung axle but i'm not sure.
    Attached Images Attached Images

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Ontario/Quebec border
    Posts
    129
    Credits
    24
    looks like an easy fix to me, a couple of new wheel studs and two new u-bolts would do it.
    Husqvarna 371 with carbide debarker attached.
    Husqvarna 576 XP
    2 Husqvarna 570's
    Stihl 044
    Norwood lumbermate 2000
    95 John Deere 540E Skidder
    Timber Devil double wood splitter
    1990 ford 555 skip loader
    2006 GMC 2500HD 4X4 Crew Cab
    7X14 Gooseneck dump trailer
    Wheeler Jr Gooseneck log loader trailer
    Palax 35s Firewood Processor
    Facebook-- Zachary's Firewood Sales

  3. #3
    Member
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    afblue's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Buffalo, NY
    Posts
    58
    Credits
    7
    Lady luck was on your side could have been far worse!!! Few studs, lug nuts and u bolts from trailer shop and be good to go. You have a full pic of the trailer to help ID the axle?
    "Getting off the grid, one toy at a time"
    2006 Ford F250 Diesel fueled by Waste Fryer Oil
    Stihl MS440BB Dual port, 18"RollomaticES full comp chain.
    Soon to be:
    Quadrafire 5100i

    Dads:
    1964 IH Tractor, Chains, Farmi Log Winch.
    American 24ton Horz Splitter.
    176 acres of North Eastern Hardwoods

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Foothills of the Blue Ridge, VA
    Posts
    318
    Credits
    86
    Yep, looks like a 4" underslung, probably 3500lb. Are those two pieces of channel hanging down from under the bed attached to the axle in the last picture? Bump stops?
    Too much power equipment to keep maintained.

  5. #5
    Member
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Oswego, NY
    Posts
    96
    Credits
    18
    Make sure to check the bearings....they def could be damaged if the wheel was flopping around....
    Stihl 015AV
    Stihl ms270

  6. #6
    Arboristsite MVP
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Rookie1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Suburb of Cleveland,Ohio
    Posts
    5,702
    Credits
    2,072
    Wow your the posterboy for trailer maintenance. Glad you and everybody else are OK.
    I enjoy working alone, especially when I'm all by myself.

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    MinivanFan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Eastern PA
    Posts
    131
    Credits
    10
    Quote Originally Posted by Junkfxr View Post
    Yep, looks like a 4" underslung, probably 3500lb. Are those two pieces of channel hanging down from under the bed attached to the axle in the last picture? Bump stops?
    I forgot to mention that it is a tilt trailer, the bottom of the channel pieces are where the hinges are.

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    MinivanFan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Eastern PA
    Posts
    131
    Credits
    10
    here are two more pictures to help ID the axle. sorry about the terrible image quality


    Attached Images Attached Images

  9. #9
    Arboristsite MVP
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    triptester's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    S.E.Wisc.
    Posts
    1,120
    Credits
    279
    Just replace the studs and U-bolts, but most importantly scrape the mag wheels they are not designed to handle the trailer. The mag wheels often center the rim on the lug nuts and not on the hub center.

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Reputation
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    eveywhere
    Posts
    384
    Credits
    10
    Quote Originally Posted by triptester View Post
    Just replace the studs and U-bolts, but most importantly scrape the mag wheels they are not designed to handle the trailer. The mag wheels often center the rim on the lug nuts and not on the hub center.
    yup. i've never had an accident, but others have told me it's ok to use wheels as long as they 'bolt up'. I always laugh in their face when they shear all the lug bolts off...

    "see dude, i told you there's a reason rims are machine so the hub carries the weight and NOT the studs...."

    Like tripster said, only use wheels that fit correctly so the hub carries the weight. I can tell from the pic the studs are carrying the weight, the center hole in the rim is too big.... studs are only designed to keep the wheel on the hub.

  11. #11
    Senior Member
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Mr. Firewood's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    changing teeth on the firewood processor in Toledo Ohio
    Posts
    417
    Credits
    4
    I have had more issues with aluminum wheels on trailers then you can shake a stick at, hell I dont even like aluminum wheels on my trucks,... nomater what they work the lugs loose

    The easiest way to make a million dollars in the firewood business is to start with 2 million......

  12. #12
    Senior Member
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Foothills of the Blue Ridge, VA
    Posts
    318
    Credits
    86
    Quote Originally Posted by MinivanFan View Post
    Also, can anyone tell me what axle is on the trailer? i think it is a 4'' underslung axle but i'm not sure.
    There might be a tag welded to the axle tube, usually near the center of the tube, that'll tell you the manufacturer and the weight rating. If there's no tag, you'll have to pull a hub off and measure the bearing fits on the spindle and match the sizes up to a bearing/spindle chart to see what the capacity of the axle is. Like triptester and trialanderror said, lose the aluminum wheels. If for no other reason, some day the trailer will "cheat a corner" a little too tight and drag a wheel against a rock or a curb and either crack it or break it, and it'll wait untill it's loaded to the gills before it does it. As long as there are aluminum wheels on the trailer, you'll have problems with them.
    Too much power equipment to keep maintained.

  13. #13
    Arboristsite MVP
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation
    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Amanda, OH
    Posts
    1,305
    Credits
    46
    My uncle has a trailer about the same size and he to lost a wheel. Thats too much trailer for a single axle to carry a load of wood on. We use one that size tandem 2 3500's and can still overload it but never lost a wheel.
    Homelite SuperXL AO
    395XP
    PP346XP

    (2) Dolmar 5100S
    Solo 681
    Mac PM610

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Page generated in 0.27905 seconds with 44 queries [Server Loads: 2.90 1.89 : 1.57]