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  1. 12-07-2010, 09:55 AM #1
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    Why can you burn ash right away?

    Everything I read says NO GREEN WOOD, so why ash?
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  2. 12-07-2010, 10:02 AM #2
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    If I had to burn green wood, ash would be one of my first choices due to it's lower moisture content when green.
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    You cant.

    What I mean is you can't if you want a good burn to get the most heat out of it and safe burn. Yes, green (recently living) ash will burn, but it will hiss and steam a lot. I love ash firewood, but I'd rather burn any seasoned wood over unseasoned ash.
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    A living ash tree is one of the lowest moisture content trees in N-America. It would be somewhat typical that a fresh drop would yield about 30-35% MC in a live one, compared to say ~70-80% in a white oak. It will burn, just not very well.

    Season all wood for a year (c/s/s)
    Season white Oak for two - and you won't have to question the quality of your firewood.
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    Here's a chart to add to your info library:


    http://www.mb-soft.com/juca/print/firewood.html


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    I have odwf I have burnt green and many times at least put a big green round in the mix to have longer burn time. I know dry wood burns faster and cleaner but burn is burn no?
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  7. 12-07-2010, 11:25 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by ropensaddle View Post
    ...but burn is burn no?
    Well...no. Green (or high moisture wood) consumes much of the heat content stored in that wood to boil the moister out. Wood can't burn until the moister is gone (hence your longer burn). I have seen figures that can go as high as 10-15% of a logs energy can be wasted trying to boil moisture out, just so it can burn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jags View Post
    Well...no. Green (or high moisture wood) consumes much of the heat content stored in that wood to boil the moister out. Wood can't burn until the moister is gone (hence your longer burn). I have seen figures that can go as high as 10-15% of a logs energy can be wasted trying to boil moisture out, just so it can burn.
    Yeah I know it burns hotter too but many times I burn all green so it goes from mounring til dark when I arrive home and use hackbury,or really whatever fits in the furnace!
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  9. 12-07-2010, 11:46 AM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by ropensaddle View Post
    Yeah I know it burns hotter too but many times I burn all green so it goes from mounring til dark when I arrive home and use hackbury,or really whatever fits in the furnace!
    Well, the one upside to green wood is longevity of a fire. The downsides are many. Creosote producing, smoke emitting, Higher pollution do to incomplete combustion, energy consuming to boil off excess moisture, in epa stoves- it is darn near impossible to burn, glass will blacken in short order (for those able to view the fire). I'm sure I missed a couple.

    I ain't telling anybody how to burn, but there are a few on the list above that could sure tick off the neighbor if you have one. Green wood and garbage are the two biggest enemies of the OWB. These two items, along with improper burning techniques have caused more negative press for wood burners than everything else combined. Green wood and garbage is probably the sole responsible components of many of the OWB restrictions that are becoming popular around the country. Just sayin'
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    Quote Originally Posted by jags View Post
    Well, the one upside to green wood is longevity of a fire. The downsides are many. Creosote producing, smoke emitting, Higher pollution do to incomplete combustion, energy consuming to boil off excess moisture, in epa stoves- it is darn near impossible to burn, glass will blacken in short order (for those able to view the fire). I'm sure I missed a couple.

    I ain't telling anybody how to burn, but there are a few on the list above that could sure tick off the neighbor if you have one. Green wood and garbage are the two biggest enemies of the OWB. These two items, along with improper burning techniques have caused more negative press for wood burners than everything else combined. Green wood and garbage is probably the sole responsible components of many of the OWB restrictions that are becoming popular around the country. Just sayin'
    I hear ya bro, the squirrels chatter about it all the time too.
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    If you burn green wood for a longer fire but it burns at a lower temperature, I don't see where the advantage is, especially with an owb. I guess if you need the coals to restart in the morning or something, it might make sense but not from a heating point of view.
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    Green ash in chunks with a proper setup makes great homemade charcoal.
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    you can burn ANY wood right away, green and sopping wet, ever seen a forest fire?

    is it ideal? god no..

    i mentioned i had some white ash that has been split for 5-6 months now, still sizzles like hell

    one member added the only advantage green ash has over other green woods is that it wont leave as much creosote

    the old riddle about cutting down and ash tree and burning it the same day is BS.. unless you want a bunch of sizzling logs boiling water out the ends and hardly burning..
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    Because we live in America you can burn green ash. while burning green ashis a little better than burning other green wood, it is not advisable if you can help it,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerran View Post
    Green ash in chunks with a proper setup makes great homemade charcoal.
    so youngun--tell us how to do it--serious--
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