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Thread: Garden wagon for wood hauling

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    Garden wagon for wood hauling

    If you use one of these, you might want to do a bit of reinforcement:



    Yes, I know. That was the position when I first got it assembled years ago. About a month later I discovered that it worked better with wheels down. The instructions never mentioned that.

    I was hauling a load of locust from the woodshed to the porch and thought it was pulling funny. Examination when I emptied it showed the front wheels splayed out.



    The problem was with that thin 3/32" flat bar tieng the uprights together at the axle bends. It broke the two sides of that hole the axle turns in - less than 1/8" on each side.



    I'll disassemle it down to to the basic subassembly, judiciously address the problem with a BFH until the uprights are back in normal position, cut 1 or 2 pieces of 3/4 x 1/8" FB to have welded just below the top of the uprights and passing under that tongue arm. I don't think they can reweld the break without freezing up the axle, it turns in what used to be that hole.

    I sure do miss the local welding shop, it closed about 15 years ago. I'm hoping I can get one of the fertilyzer plants to do the job - they both run equipment manufacturing shops and I used to work in one of them many years ago.

    Harry K
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    In the last photo it looks like there might be a wheel bearing problem as well.
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    It's funny you say that, My father and I work on snowmobile trails with our snowmobile club in the summer and the fall and we ride them on the sleds in the winter. We decided to take out the four wheelers with out little limbing saws and some loopers and a axe on the trail. So we got all ready and loaded up the wagon and hooked it behind the four wheeler. We get out all the way out to the woods and start working, On the way home I noticed it was pulling kind of funny but I didn't think anything of it because our trails are kinda rough anyway. My dad said I was whinning about the wagon to much and the way it pulls so he put it behind his four wheeler. We get almost all the way home and my dad hasn't noticed that he blew out the front axle on the wagon and the wheels were skidding down the dirt road to our house! I got him to pull over and he got off and saw it and we both thought it was hilarious! The cart wasn't even our! It was my mom's cart! We pulled up into the dooryard with it and boy was she un-happy! So we welded it up with some steel plates and it was good as new and it still works great!




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    Quote Originally Posted by turnkey4099 View Post
    If you use one of these, you might want to do a bit of reinforcement:



    Yes, I know. That was the position when I first got it assembled years ago. About a month later I discovered that it worked better with wheels down. The instructions never mentioned that.

    I was hauling a load of locust from the woodshed to the porch and thought it was pulling funny. Examination when I emptied it showed the front wheels splayed out.



    The problem was with that thin 3/32" flat bar tieng the uprights together at the axle bends. It broke the two sides of that hole the axle turns in - less than 1/8" on each side.



    I'll disassemle it down to to the basic subassembly, judiciously address the problem with a BFH until the uprights are back in normal position, cut 1 or 2 pieces of 3/4 x 1/8" FB to have welded just below the top of the uprights and passing under that tongue arm. I don't think they can reweld the break without freezing up the axle, it turns in what used to be that hole.

    I sure do miss the local welding shop, it closed about 15 years ago. I'm hoping I can get one of the fertilyzer plants to do the job - they both run equipment manufacturing shops and I used to work in one of them many years ago.

    Harry K
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandhill Crane View Post
    In the last photo it looks like there might be a wheel bearing problem as well.
    Yes it does but inspection "in place" doesn't show what, if any, the problem is. I'll find out when I do the take-apart.

    Harry K

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    They say that the third time never fails... Harry, you are about a year too late with that info. We have one of those carts for the wife to pull behind the mower. Last spring I use it behind the wheeler to take some corn down to the deer feeders. Yep!! I had the same thing happen. Wrap some wet rags around the area and hit it with the welder. I also put Green Slim in the tires because they always go flat. They make a handy cart for the wife and her flowers but not made for a guy stuff until you beef them up a little.

    I thought It only happen to me. Good info for the other members.. Thanks for posting..

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    Hello,
    Another place that you should probably beef up is that 2.5 inch wide metal that runs up to the pulling handle. That's about the best I can describe the part. That part on mine bent and twisted after I was using it under one end of some big roof trusses to move them across the yard!!! I have since straightened it back out, but this summer I am going to weld some braces in place.....that should really help a lot. The other problem with those type of carts is the narrow distance between the wheels side to side. I've had mine tip over several times because of that....but that is just the nature of the cart !!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by SliverPicker View Post

    Looks just like mine except mine has the sides like the green one.
    Stihl 029 AV (woods port & polish, muffler mod)
    Stihl 031 AV (ported,polished, muffler mod)
    Stihl MS 211 (so far stock)
    Poulan Pro 35cc (muffler mod)
    Husqvarna Special 45
    Homelite Super 2 (ported, muffler mod)
    McCulloch Automatic
    McCulloch Super-Pro 40
    Stihl FS 130 Brush Cutter (polished,ported)
    Husqvarna 325P5 E-Tec Pole Saw
    Mac Eager Beavers (x2)
    Sachs-Dolmar 110 (parts saw)
    Husqvarna 365XP (parts saw)
    Some other stuff...


    Going to the woods, is going home

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry and Wanda View Post
    Hello,
    Another place that you should probably beef up is that 2.5 inch wide metal that runs up to the pulling handle. That's about the best I can describe the part. That part on mine bent and twisted after I was using it under one end of some big roof trusses to move them across the yard!!! I have since straightened it back out, but this summer I am going to weld some braces in place.....that should really help a lot. The other problem with those type of carts is the narrow distance between the wheels side to side. I've had mine tip over several times because of that....but that is just the nature of the cart !!!!



    Henry and Wanda
    Amen to the narrow wheel base. I also have tipped it over. REally no reason for the narrowness - minor redesign and the wheels could be out another inch or two and still not stick out past the sides.

    Harry K

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