free standing woodstove into a fireplace question

I was offered this stove in trade for some work hours.

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I have a fireplace right now. I was thinking of setting this in front of the fireplace and connecting it to my chimney pipe. I have triple wall 8 inch for my fireplace. I figured I would snake a 6 inch liner down the 8inch tripwall and then elbow it out and connect it to the woodstove.
I'm so tired of lighting fires all the time and watching all my work go up the chimney.
Anybody ever use this Schraeder woodstove?

It's a pretty simple design. The hole in the top for the pipe doesn't have a baffle or damper built into it. I would have to have a damper in the first section of stove pipe before I made the 90 turn into the existing chimney.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Here is where I'll put it. I will probably brick in the existing fireplace.

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Nice mulie on the left in your photo. My neighbor has a schrader stove like that in his garage. It works great. I do know that 90 degree ells are not the best as they cut down on the draft, but I've also see it done alot in buildings. I think it would work fine. I'm sure you'd love that stove with two ells much more than a fireplace.

ft. churchill said:

Nice mulie on the left in your photo. My neighbor has a schrader stove like that in his garage. It works great. I do know that 90 degree ells are not the best as they cut down on the draft, but I've also see it done alot in buildings. I think it would work fine. I'm sure you'd love that stove with two ells much more than a fireplace.

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Thanks Churchill! Taken in Wyoming back around 1990.

I can almost feel the heat that little stove will put out. Cook me right out of the room!

it looks a lot like an ALL-NIGHTER or a FISHER stove, they were good stoves back in the day. I would clean it up put some fresh stove paint on it and list it for $700 on Craigslist. And maybe try to sell that zero clearance you have in the pic and buy a nice newer fireplace insert to put in there. I picked up an Avalon for $400 after looking around on CL for a while, it came with a blower(fan). When I use the fan I can heat the whole house 2700 sqft, without the fan I can heat the room with the stove 12'x12'. If you get a nice insert with a glass door then you can relax and watch the fire burn.

dave_376 said:

it looks a lot like an ALL-NIGHTER or a FISHER stove, they were good stoves back in the day. I would clean it up put some fresh stove paint on it and list it for $700 on Craigslist. And maybe try to sell that zero clearance you have in the pic and buy a nice newer fireplace insert to put in there. I picked up an Avalon for $400 after looking around on CL for a while, it came with a blower(fan). When I use the fan I can heat the whole house 2700 sqft, without the fan I can heat the room with the stove 12'x12'. If you get a nice insert with a glass door then you can relax and watch the fire burn.

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It's very clean. That is not the actual stove in the pic. The one I am looking at is even nicer. I don't even use the room that the stove will be in. I was originally going to put in an insert but that fireplace is connected to a pre-fab chimney. Sticking an insert in there will cause me to rebuild the entire thing costing too much $.

I believe I can use a freestanding stove, slide a ss liner in my prefab triple wall and punch through the brick with a "thimble" and connect to the stove without too much rework. Brick up the fireplace and call it good. This home is a bi-level. Stove will be on the lower level so the room has to be very toasty to move the heat up the stairs.

The prefab fireplace just wont be safe for an insert or without buying a prefab insert.
The kicker is I have almost no money to spend therefore I'm trading back power to get his done.
Thanks for your ideas!

dave_376 said:

it looks a lot like an ALL-NIGHTER or a FISHER stove, they were good stoves back in the day. I would clean it up put some fresh stove paint on it and list it for $700 on Craigslist. And maybe try to sell that zero clearance you have in the pic and buy a nice newer fireplace insert to put in there. I picked up an Avalon for $400 after looking around on CL for a while, it came with a blower(fan). When I use the fan I can heat the whole house 2700 sqft, without the fan I can heat the room with the stove 12'x12'. If you get a nice insert with a glass door then you can relax and watch the fire burn.

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sorry but it looks nothing like an All Nighter or a Fisher, sitting here looking at my All Nighter then looking at the pic of that stove, not even close,:cool2: other then that its a steel plate stove...
all nighters and fisher have a stepped top to make somewhat of a secondary burn chamber in the rear "high" part of the stove...

This is not the same model, but the same idea. I just cut the legs off this free standing stove and slid it back in my old heatalator. It will run you out of my little 1400sft house if you let it.

Bushmans said:

It's very clean. That is not the actual stove in the pic. The one I am looking at is even nicer. I don't even use the room that the stove will be in. I was originally going to put in an insert but that fireplace is connected to a pre-fab chimney. Sticking an insert in there will cause me to rebuild the entire thing costing too much $.

I believe I can use a freestanding stove, slide a ss liner in my prefab triple wall and punch through the brick with a "thimble" and connect to the stove without too much rework. Brick up the fireplace and call it good. This home is a bi-level. Stove will be on the lower level so the room has to be very toasty to move the heat up the stairs.

The prefab fireplace just wont be safe for an insert or without buying a prefab insert.
The kicker is I have almost no money to spend therefore I'm trading back power to get his done.
Thanks for your ideas!

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That is all ours is, an old bricked up masony brick chimney that had a fireplace originally. Theres an opening about 6.5 feet up, single L elbow to access it. Works fine. I personally dont use a damper, regulate output with air intake and species/quantity/size of wood.

nathon918 said:

sorry but it looks nothing like an All Nighter or a Fisher, sitting here looking at my All Nighter then looking at the pic of that stove, not even close,:cool2: other then that its a steel plate stove...
all nighters and fisher have a stepped top to make somewhat of a secondary burn chamber in the rear "high" part of the stove...

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correct on the hump back but the doors and the air controls are very similar on to a Fisher / All Nighter. I have owned/operated each and I would really consider it a secondary burn chamber, the gases may stay in the stove a fraction of a second longer to burn off more but nothing like a modern secondary burn stove. The hump on an All nighter is anything but a secondary burn chamber, the air pipes running through it actually do the opposite, they cool off the gases preventing complete burn.

Both stoves will put out some serious heat but will also eat wood faster than a fat kid with a bag of Oreo's.

Bushmans


It's very clean. That is not the actual stove in the pic. The one I am looking at is even nicer. I don't even use the room that the stove will be in. I was originally going to put in an insert but that fireplace is connected to a pre-fab chimney. Sticking an insert in there will cause me to rebuild the entire thing costing too much $.

I believe I can use a freestanding stove, slide a ss liner in my prefab triple wall and punch through the brick with a "thimble" and connect to the stove without too much rework. Brick up the fireplace and call it good. This home is a bi-level. Stove will be on the lower level so the room has to be very toasty to move the heat up the stairs.

The prefab fireplace just wont be safe for an insert or without buying a prefab insert.
The kicker is I have almost no money to spend therefore I'm trading back power to get his done.
Thanks for your ideas!

I agree save as much money as possible, the sooner you burn the more you can save. Before you start anything check with you building inspector to make sure it is going to be legal, If it's not installed to code you won't be able to get insurance to pay for a claim if you are unfortunate enough to have a fire.

I wouldn't recommend it, a prefab fireplace has a prefab chimney system as well that may not be rated for a stove. You need to find the rating of the chimney system.

I imagine the chimney is terracotta or something similar. I would proceed with your original idea. An insert slid back into a fireplace doesn't heat as good as a free standing stove with open air around it to radiate heat. An insert will need a blower to get the heat to off of the stove. I heated with an insert for many years and hated it.