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The world has not seen a perfect christian yet, but that does nothing to diminish its teachings and relevance. Maybe its best to leave religion out of this. Everyone that is now acting with moral superiority, I would bet will have a dishonest moment, or step out of line before there number is up. This has nothing to do with Brad or this whole transaction, I just see religion being dragged into this when it shouldn't be.

Tim

I disagree. I find it highly relevant.
 
The world has not seen a perfect christian yet, but that does nothing to diminish its teachings and relevance. Maybe its best to leave religion out of this. Everyone that is now acting with moral superiority, I would bet will have a dishonest moment, or step out of line before there number is up. This has nothing to do with Brad or this whole transaction, I just see religion being dragged into this when it shouldn't be.

Tim

The only post worth replying to in this whole saga....:yourock:
 
You guys can call me a liar all you want. I've stated the facts, but I can't force you to believe them. I did not realize that cylinder had busted fins. Yes, I know that's hard to believe but it's true.

Would you like me to quote the PM from Tom himself, where he said he didn't see it either, and would have sent on to Joat had not the other guy there seen it. Looks like you're no better than I am Tom!

Most of you guys in here are in this for nothing more than a blood bath. You're all sucked in with a group thinking kick a dog while it's down mob mentallity. Did I screw up? Yup, big time! Does that make me a lying cheat? Hardly! I offered to replace it, but instead refunded the money. Not much more a man can do than that.

OK, Last comment from me on this as the others I've directed toward you for the past few weeks seem to have fallen on deaf ears.

Brad, what is underlined is the problem. Thats not what you did. You brought what should have been a private business dealing into the public venue, as a means to embarrass two people.

One you assumed was intent on doing you wrong from the get go. The other you thought was just plain up to no good.

You didn't make offers to make it right, you told your customer how he was going to be treated, regardless of how he liked it. You made claims that were proven wrong within minutes. Then once you were proven wrong, claimed that your customer knew all along, what you as the person who had had the unit in your hands, claim you didn't.

Are you starting to see the issue?

You claim you are apologizing, why making excuses for what happened. Trust me, thats not an appology...thats going through the motions. I know, I spent alot of my life going through the motions...it doesn't work.

An honest, sincere, open apology goes along way...excuses well they are like #######s, everyones got em...and they stink.
 
I disagree. I find it highly relevant.

That is the nicest part about being a Chistian...Letting you disagree w/ me...

"Science and religion are two windows that people look through,
trying to understand the big universe outside, trying to understand
why we are here. The two windows give different views, but both look
out at the same universe. Both views are one-sided, neither is
complete. Both leave out essential features of the real world. And
both are worthy of respect." Freeman Dyson
 
I don't want nothing from you buddy, no fear on that. However you do owe everyone else a big I'm Sorry for lying your azz off about that cylinder. That thing is so obvious only a blind man would not have spotted it. I got caught in the middle of a deal that you advertised. You can't keep doing what your doing and expect people to turn a blind eye to it. Time you growed up and realized people aren't as stupid as much as you think.

I accepted your take untill I seen that pic and found out that you recieved that POS cylinder in a box and stuck it on this saw and then asked 700.00 for it. There is no frigging way you missed the fins on it when you took it out the box, impossible. You knew better but that greed got the best of you. Time to play nice Brad like you want others to play nice with you, take the hint, this BS will not stand..

Between God and my soul, I can honestly tell you, I did not notice those broken fins. How? I have no idea. You worked on the saw yourself and told me you did not see it, nor would you have. Do you think for one second I would have shipped this saw to you, knowing you were going to go over it with a fine toothed comb, knowing it had broken cylinder fins? Hardly! That's not even logical!
 
That is the nicest part about being a Chistian...Letting you disagree w/ me...

"Science and religion are two windows that people look through,
trying to understand the big universe outside, trying to understand
why we are here. The two windows give different views, but both look
out at the same universe. Both views are one-sided, neither is
complete. Both leave out essential features of the real world. And
both are worthy of respect." Freeman Dyson

:agree2: Space is only here because he can't find the patch kit for his blow-up doll....:hmm3grin2orange:
 
Well. I'll drop a $20 in the hat to keep the saw it Tom tears it on down to see what else can be learned! Shouldn't take much to get joat his $700 back, we all get to learn something and joat can afford to Pay Tom to get it running right!
 
That is the nicest part about being a Chistian...Letting you disagree w/ me...

"Science and religion are two windows that people look through,
trying to understand the big universe outside, trying to understand
why we are here. The two windows give different views, but both look
out at the same universe. Both views are one-sided, neither is
complete. Both leave out essential features of the real world. And
both are worthy of respect." Freeman Dyson

Amazing! They fit all that on a Fortune Cookie?:bowdown::bowdown:
 
You guys can call me a liar all you want. I've stated the facts, but I can't force you to believe them. I did not realize that cylinder had busted fins. Yes, I know that's hard to believe but it's true.

Would you like me to quote the PM from Tom himself, where he said he didn't see it either, and would have sent on to Joat had not the other guy there seen it. Looks like you're no better than I am Tom!

Most of you guys in here are in this for nothing more than a blood bath. You're all sucked in with a group thinking kick a dog while it's down mob mentallity. Did I screw up? Yup, big time! Does that make me a lying cheat? Hardly! I offered to replace it, but instead refunded the money. Not much more a man can do than that.

I told you I didn't notice it, what I was looking at was under the cover of the saw. You got that cylinder out of a box, you handled it, you put it on the saw, how could you put the right front cylinder screw in without looking directly at the missing fins? I also told you had I put it on I wouldn't have overlook that. I told you also it looked bad on you as a saw builder to miss it. Then it dawn on me after looking at the cylinder in full color in that pic you didn't miss it, impossible. Sleep well if you can, I know I will..
 
Between God and my soul, I can honestly tell you, I did not notice those broken fins. How? I have no idea. You worked on the saw yourself and told me you did not see it, nor would you have. Do you think for one second I would have shipped this saw to you, knowing you were going to go over it with a fine toothed comb, knowing it had broken cylinder fins? Hardly! That's not even logical!

Do you really want to be known as being that incompetent more than just the guy who tried to pull a fast one? Either way, it's not pretty. At least one is honest. Honesty is a valuable resource, and believe me dude, you ain't got many resources to spare at this juncture.
 
Well. I'll drop a $20 in the hat to keep the saw it Tom tears it on down to see what else can be learned! Shouldn't take much to get joat his $700 back, we all get to learn something and joat can afford to Pay Tom to get it running right!

I'd give $20 to the effort! :cheers:
 
+2 I'd throw $20

Heck I'll send ya' a good cyl. if Joat keeps it.
 
What about all you guys who have snellerized saws out there? Are you all checking out those saws a little closer now?
 
I told you I didn't notice it, what I was looking at was under the cover of the saw. You got that cylinder out of a box, you handled it, you put it on the saw, how could you put the right front cylinder screw in without looking directly at the missing fins? I also told you had I put it on I wouldn't have overlook that. I told you also it looked bad on you as a saw builder to miss it. Then it dawn on me after looking at the cylinder in full color in that pic you didn't miss it, impossible. Sleep well if you can, I know I will..

Yes, it does look bad on me as a builder. I can deal with that. But what I'm not OK with is you calling me a liar. Fortunately, you're not the Final Judge. Only He knows what everyones intentions was in all of this. I can rest my head at night knowing that I did no wrong intenetionally. And for what I unintentionally did, I have appologized for.
 
OMFG!!!:sucks:

You guys need to stop airing your dirty laundry in the streets.:deadhorse:

Wow i'm fairly new here but it seems like a real pissin match\:censored: measuring contest.

Get back to reality, behave like men not #####y scool girls. Phone calls not internet slander fights fix things.
:deadhorse::notrolls2::sucks:




Or you guys have sucked all of us into a big drama game that will probly end on april 1st:cheers: Which would be funny....

I'm going to look at some chainsaw stuff now.

Bill the dissapointed.
 
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