stupid chinese stove has gotta go (king from TSC)

[joelswork]

OK, two years ago I bought a pretty fireplace for our little house here in central tennessee. We have no other heat source so this is it! Well, the run in with the bodok messed up a "heat retention plate" that takes up 25% of the firebox and I never could get more than a 2 hour burn on it :bang: (no air inlet controls at all) thus leaving the only air control, the damper that will not shut past 75% closed!

I am low on cash but this has gotta go! I need suggestions on the two things that never seem to go together....inexpensive and efficient

we have a little 1100 sq foot 2 story house, the model of the fireplace was the king from TSC

Help!

 

[sunfish]

You couldn't run fast enough to give me a Chinese stove.

Were me, I'd beg, borrow, or steal the money and get a Jotul.

Better yet, save up the money and buy one

 

[joelswork]

Well, I'm chatting with the company rep...interesting

me: so, the huge cloud of smoke that comes in every time I open the door to refuel...what is it doing that?

answer, sir..it's all because you don't have a big enough flue

me: 30' of 6" pipe going several feet above the roof...that's not enough

answer: page 7 of your manual states that it is solely the responsibility of your chiminey system to draft all the smoke out when you open the door.

me: interesting how the top of the door is above the baffle, seems like the natural draft would then be into my house if I open the door...right?

answer: page 7 clearly states...

me: Is there a way to choke down the unit for longer burn times

answer: install another damper in your flue

me: what about for the intake side of stove?

answer: no, there is no need for it...the damper on the stove is suffecient

me: but you just told me to add another one in the flue


errrrrrr

 

[BlueRidgeMark]

Look for a decent used stove in the classified ads or on Craigslist. A used Fisher would do you very well, even the smaller ones.

I have the big Grandpa Bear and it's oversized for my 1300 foot house.

You can't break the things, so don't be afraid of buying used. Worst case it might need some new firebricks and some elbow grease.

 

[WetBehindtheEar]

Look for a decent used stove in the classified ads or on Craigslist. A used Fisher would do you very well, even the smaller ones.

I have the big Grandpa Bear and it's oversized for my 1300 foot house.

You can't break the things, so don't be afraid of buying used. Worst case it might need some new firebricks and some elbow grease.

:agree2::agree2::agree2:

 

[CrappieKeith]

...and what led you to believe that there was any quality in a stove from TSC?
I think someone said it here....save up and get a real wood burner.

It's sorta like getting that 200 piece socket set for $19.99
The 1st time you reef on a nut the socket cracks and you wonder why.
Drop forged from China should be the 1st clue.

Normally for me anyway...buying used usually is buying somebody elses problem child.

Get ahold of me...maybe I can help you out of the madness.

 

[DSS]

Be surprised if you can't find a stove for cheap or free. I have turned down any number of free wood stoves in the last few years.

You may not get a beauty, but anything is better than what you got, and you can save up for a nice one.

That's my two cents.......

 

[BlueRidgeMark]

Be surprised if you can't find a stove for cheap or free. I have turned down any number of free wood stoves in the last few years.

You may not get a beauty, but anything is better than what you got, and you can save up for a nice one.

That's my two cents.......

:agree2:

 

[Blowncrewcab]

Keep Looking, I Bought My Buck Stove used in 2001, Found it in the newspaper for $500, It had only been used a few times, the heat ran his wife out of the house Theres deals out there, look over what ever you buy very well, bring a good flashlight so you can see inside at all the corners and joints. Good Luck.

 

[bsearcey]

$200

http://clarksville.craigslist.org/app/1989325278.html

 

[gpsman007]

I have a pacific energy stove

and it is one of the best ones I have seen.

It will hold all night. I heat my 2400 sq ft home with it and it also conserves wood too . 6 cords will take me to spring I have the super 27

http://www.pacificenergy.net/

 

[Dalmatian90]

You can't break the things, so don't be afraid of buying used. Worst case it might need some new firebricks and some elbow grease.

And the defensive line from your local high school team to help move a Fisher :biggrinbounce2:

(Grew up with the Allnighter copycat version...later on at another place BiL had a slick system he setup of plywood runners to protect his tile floor and make a ramp to get through the front door threshold, then he'd use a floor jack (with wood to distribute the force so as not to stress the stove) to lift his Fisher and roll it outside for it's annual painting, etc)

 

[woodgrenade]

Quadrafire, Lopi, Avalon to name a few of the more common newer top of the line stoves. I picked up my quad for $600 and put 2 firebricks and a baffle into it. Same model new is $2000. Shop around, you'll find something good.

 

[sawkiller]

Not all the stuff at TSC is junk. For instance I got my wood furnace there and it is union made in the US by US stove and I gave $7 or 800 for it new in the spring clearance sale.

 

[Rudedog]

Be surprised if you can't find a stove for cheap or free. I have turned down any number of free wood stoves in the last few years.

You may not get a beauty, but anything is better than what you got, and you can save up for a nice one.

That's my two cents.......

Exactly. I gave away a Sierra 7000 wood stove. The people I bought my Jotul from wanted 300.00 to remove it. I had my buddy remove it for free. He sold it for 350.00. It was a decent stove that needed some fire bricks replaced. There are some deals out there. You can really score if you are near an area that has affluent people that consider an old stove a piece of junk. You might try approaching a local stove dealer and see what they do with their removals.

 

[Rudedog]

$200

http://clarksville.craigslist.org/app/1989325278.html

Smok'in good deal!

 

[BlueRidgeMark]

And the defensive line from your local high school team to help move a Fisher :biggrinbounce2:

Okay, okay, so I forgot to mention the cost of pizza and coke for the movers! So sue me!







:agree2:

 

[CrappieKeith]

Not all the stuff at TSC is junk. For instance I got my wood furnace there and it is union made in the US by US stove and I gave $7 or 800 for it new in the spring clearance sale.

ok....they are a retailer and marked that furnace up...they paid around $4-500 for it...what can you make for that? I know what steel, labor,building overhead,taxes,insurances cost. There's really not that much there.

 

[BlueRidgeMark]

Keith, bad-mouthing the competition is making you look bad.

 

[CrappieKeith]

Sorry Mark if you see it that way.
I am trying to educate....buying direct from the manufacture enables you to skip the retailer markup and maybe even local state tax.

If we sold to TSC and they resold our product it would cost you over 7 grand for a multifuel and over 3 grand for our smallest wood add on.

Normally the chain stores sell what they can buy for the cheapest.Look at wally world for example....and I'm being general..in some cases there are high end products sold for a decent price.

Retailers also offer what's called a loss leader.
The idea is to get you into the store becuase of such a cheap price on the product hoping to get you to buy the next better one for more $$ or to buy other items along with the loss leader.

there are many games being played in the retail industry....I'm just trying to point out some of them.