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[slowp]

This is kind of related to the topic. I never thought that my bike was noisy. I guess the deer and elk I've come across must be deaf.

Do Mountain Bike Trails Belong In The Cascade Mountains? | Northwest Public Radio

 

[WhistlePunk99]

Old skool

I applaude the concept of trail clearing but it is wilderness and the point is to leave it molested by man right?

 

[madhatte]

MAN MOLESTS WILDERNESS: news at eleven

 

[WhistlePunk99]

This wilderness is not to be touched by modern equipment is a bloody joke. If they want to build trails in there then they had better be ADA approved or that is discimination plain and simple.

 

[Gologit]

Is HBRN back?

 

[WhistlePunk99]

Is HBRN back?

What is this ?

 

[Gologit]

What is this ?

Not much, really. He was a guy who used to post here. He pretended to be a logger and most of what he said were lies. After a very short time everybody quit believing his fantasy stories because real loggers know the difference.

He went away but every once in awhile he shows up with a new user name. We always know it's him because he always writes the same way, parrots the opinions of others, and gradually slips back into his old ways.

He used to offer advice to newbies on here...bad advice...dangerous advice really, and that is the main reason he's no longer here. He has poor saw skills yet claims to be an expert and argues with the people who try to help him.

If he wants to live in a world of his own creation, that's fine. We just don't want any part of it.

We really hoped he'd get some mental health counselling and maybe get some meds to level him out. Maybe he did. Maybe not.

 

[northmanlogging]

I thought the idea behind wilderness was to have a trace of something that was as near as possible to what Ma nature had in mind... while still having trails so us people can enjoy it as well.

The idea being that with no roads, cars, wheels, or engines of any type... it would remain as prestine as possible.

On that thought, far as I'm concerned there is enough wilderness to go around now, and not enough people enjoy it... (and in some places to many people).

Now if the forest service can get back to managing the forests that are not wilderness or part of a park, maybe then we could get some work done, and the forest service would have some money to do the maintenance on the trails themselves...

 

[Philbert]

I tried the battery operated chain saw argument here in Minnesota. Said they were quiet and no fumes. Same response.

Maybe drag saws? They were 1800's, right? ( So was dynamite!)

Philberr

 

[2dogs]

Not much, really. He was a guy who used to post here. He pretended to be a logger and most of what he said were lies. After a very short time everybody quit believing his fantasy stories because real loggers know the difference.

He went away but every once in awhile he shows up with a new user name. We always know it's him because he always writes the same way, parrots the opinions of others, and gradually slips back into his old ways.

He used to offer advice to newbies on here...bad advice...dangerous advice really, and that is the main reason he's no longer here. He has poor saw skills yet claims to be an expert and argues with the people who try to help him.

If he wants to live in a world of his own creation, that's fine. We just don't want any part of it.

We really hoped he'd get some mental health counselling and maybe get some meds to level him out. Maybe he did. Maybe not.

I miss the good old days.

 

[2dogs]

Here's a link to pictures of blowdown to saw up, by hand, in the wilderness. Don't know if I'll be healed up by then....my heel spur got irritated after a few years of not bothering...:msp_sad:

Anybody wanna help? This is south of White Pass, WA (Hwy 12). No dates are set yet.
https://plus.google.com/107769768906767969795?cfem=1#107769768906767969795/posts?cfem=1

I'd use dynamite on the big piles so the pieces don't look like they have been touched by man. Then I would use horses to drag the big pieces away and hand scatter the rest. Later in the year build a series of fires, burn to white ash, NO charcoal, and scatter the ash.

 

[northmanlogging]

I'd use dynamite on the big piles so the pieces don't look like they have been touched by man. Then I would use horses to drag the big pieces away and hand scatter the rest. Later in the year build a series of fires, burn to white ash, NO charcoal, and scatter the ash.

Are ya this retentive about your laundry too? Sounds like an awful lot of work to clear a trail that well looks like a trail...

I'm with ya on the high explosives though... way more entertaining than a couple of old farts wheezing away on a misery whip, well maybe a little more entertaining...

 

[2dogs]

Are ya this retentive about your laundry too?

Yes.

 

[tramp bushler]

The same guy made a underbucker out of airplane grade aluminum. Those are a wheel with grooves in it to hold the saw when you have to come up from the bottom, mounted on a bar with a chisel like tip so you can pound it into the log. The wheel is mounted so it can be moved up and down on the bar. It's pretty neat.

Buckers used shorter handled swampers ax . You swung it in lengthwise to the log good and deep and the handle held up the saw. They also used short wide thin tapered steel wedges driven in crosswise to a buck to help keep the log from splitting as it was bucked. . I'de do it but I wouldn't take a class. Nope. I'de supply my own tools. But, take a class. Ooohhhh I'm gonna be mad about just the idea of that for days now. That's the problem with anything t do with the gubmint. It's not just that they want you t come work for free. But they want ya t bend over and spread em first
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@#$%&*-+()?/;:'"! … them----------s wouldn't make a pimple on a timber beasts a$$.
+*&%$#@!)?(+;*'+:%"&$ .
I bet they wash their tin pants

 

[tramp bushler]

Hey, 2 . ; you been fightin fires this season. We have at least 1pretty good size one going up by Chena ( cheena) Hot Springs.
Do you guys get any chance to travel to other states for fires. Some of the guys I cut r.o.w. with last fall travel down to the Rockies on fires if there aren't any around here.

 

[2dogs]

Nope. My fire fighting work, hazard tree falling, is pretty muchly confined the few counties around me. I am on the statewide list and have received one call this year. That call was a screw-up on calFire's part and I did not even go on the assignment. There is a protocol the CalFire is to follow but they rarely do so. It is about who you know. I really don't mind though because I am busy enough during the summer. The money would be nice though.

 

[slowp]

Buckers used shorter handled swampers ax . You swung it in lengthwise to the log good and deep and the handle held up the saw. They also used short wide thin tapered steel wedges driven in crosswise to a buck to help keep the log from splitting as it was bucked. . I'de do it but I wouldn't take a class. Nope. I'de supply my own tools. But, take a class. Ooohhhh I'm gonna be mad about just the idea of that for days now. That's the problem with anything t do with the gubmint. It's not just that they want you t come work for free. But they want ya t bend over and spread em first
.


@#$%&*-+()?/;:'"! … them----------s wouldn't make a pimple on a timber beasts a$$.
+*&%$#@!)?(+;*'+:%"&$ .
I bet they wash their tin pants

We used an ax instead of a steel wedge to keep the log from splitting. There's lots of little tricks. And yes, you'd need to have a first aid card, and go to the first training. It's really a good thing...better than having a saw handed to you and the training the words, "don't hurt yourself" like happened to me. That was the gubmint too. I didn't hurt myself but I sure was sore the first week.

 

[slowp]

Here's a picture of the underbucker.

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[Gologit]

Nice. I'm glad to see the old skills and tools still being used. Keeping all that heritage alive is important. I'm proud of them.

Now, HAND ME MY 660 !!!

 

[imagineero]

Now, HAND ME MY 660 !!!

Here ya go ;-)