Same story.....Dolmar Ps 6400,7300,7900.......Solo 665, 675, 681
As I mentioned before, in my country the Ps6400 very succesfull rental saw.......but the Solo 681 is not.
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Same story.....Dolmar Ps 6400,7300,7900.......Solo 665, 675, 681
As I mentioned before, in my country the Ps6400 very succesfull rental saw.......but the Solo 681 is not.
SawTroll
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Yes, the 550P is a real dud in the power to weight area.
SawTroll
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Yes, the 550P is a real dud in the power to weight department.
7sleeper
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I understood you quite well. I am sorry if my answer was not clear. What I was trying to say was, during regular use the crank, bearings, case, etc. are about never going to break before the piston and cylinder are worn out. So making or having these parts (crank, bearings, case, etc.) stronger is just a waste and useless, when piston rings, piston and cylinder are the first to wear out."If you use bigger cilinder.......proportionally reduce the life
of the saw."
It wasn't a proper wording, it is true. Sorry about my English.
But, Iam not agree with you.
Of course it is all about working hours! I was talking about how can affect much power to the major parts of the machine.
The major parts of the machine is not only piston, rings, and cylinder.
Crankshaft,crank rod......etc.
For example, there is 2 piece of same metal. You take a hammer and start to hit them.
The first you hit with the half of your power, the second you hit with full of your power.
What do you think,which will break down earlier..????
"...the 6400 is overbuilt strength wise for a 64cc saw, but that will not guarentee that the saw will live one more day."
I think, yes.....definitely guarantee longer life of the same if you use with 64 ccm,and not 79 ccm, specialy not with 84.6 ccm! / big bore set/
Of course if you choose to rebuild yourself, the better/ stronger parts (case, crank, bearings, etc.) will make it more worth it. But it will definately NOT make the saw live one day longer.
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Idahonative
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HOLY COW!!! Hold onto your hat Troll and take a pic of this post because you and I actually agree on something.
I respect your opinion!
CoreyB
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Only if you leave to the Dolmar 6100 out! Better fuel economy and real top notch air filtration. The husky 562 just falls short and then that silly outboard clutch to just clog up with saw chips.
But hey to each their own if you want to pay more for less.
"The husky 562 just falls short and then that silly outboard clutch to just clog up with saw chips."
I am sorry,.... you were joking with this sentence?
SawTroll
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I don't agree at all, and would take an outboard over an inboard any day.
"The husky 562 just falls short and then that silly outboard clutch to just clog up with saw chips."
I am sorry,.... you were joking with this sentence?
CoreyB is correct. If you look at my 555xp vs 620PW videos I noodle with each and the outboard clutch on the 555/562xp gets clogged up easily and is an extra pain when you get a saw stuck and need to pull the powerhead... but most AS warriors may not get that point.
KenJax Tree
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I don't noodle with my 2260 or 562xp and can't remember the last time i got a saw stuck[emoji4]
CoreyB
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Yes and no. I like poking fun at SawTroll"The husky 562 just falls short and then that silly outboard clutch to just clog up with saw chips."
I am sorry,.... you were joking with this sentence?
However I also like to point out, if you change the needs of the users some saws fall short like how much fuel you have to carry, or if you need good air filtration, or if you do noodle a lot. Not that the 562 is bad but in some uses it just falls short of being a top notch saw. I mean look at the specs the 6100 is so much better on fuel economy which means you do not have to lug around that extra fuel all day.
So yes some is poking fun but some are concerns and values people need from a saw. And the sooner that some realize that the 562 is not the best 60cc saw in all needs. Now the 2260 on the other hand that us one fine saw right @KenJax Tree
nnero
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I know this is gonna sound crazy but bear with me...Every saw mentioned here has its pros and cons. Not one of them is the best at everything and that definantly includes the 562. But, we the consumer, get to pick the one that's best suited to our own different situation and needs. So the best one for me might not be the best one for you. Hopefully this crazy talk doesn't get me banned lol
But seriously this crazy brand loyalty and personal bs is growing quite tiresome. Some of its in good fun but a lot isnt. It really takes away from the forum. Not that this thread is example of that....yet haha
But seriously this crazy brand loyalty and personal bs is growing quite tiresome. Some of its in good fun but a lot isnt. It really takes away from the forum. Not that this thread is example of that....yet haha
7sleeper
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I haven't owned an Echo CS-620P, but certainly wouldn't stick my nose up at one, and here is why?
The Dolmar's are very rare in my area, Stihl has most of the market locked up these days, back in the 1980's Husqvarna's were the saw to get and got a good foothold on the market here and kept it for quite a while. Echo's have always been around, but their power equipment seems to be more popular for the most part than their chain saws, but this is likely to change in the coming years...IMHO
Over the years I've watched Echo continue to build and improved their saws. I bought a few early units back in the 1980's, with the spark plug down by the handle and/or reed valve engines they were complete "turds" for sure. In 2003 I met a depot level tech from Echo and he offered newer model Echo saws to test for him, among other power equipment. I ended up with a garden tiller, string trimmer, leaf blower, and half a dozen chainsaws. ALL of that equipment has been absolutely problem free and dead solid reliable now for over 12 years. Even with that said, I found several of those saws to be a bit anemic. That simply happens when you compare them to Husqvarna 262XP/269XPS and 181SE models, which were about as good for power to weight as you'll find from that era.
Anyhow, I ran the dog living piss out of everything he gave me, cutting none of it any slack anyplace, and comparing all the chain saws to my excellent line-up of Husqvarna saws.
The CS-370/400's are tough as nails, with great power (torque) for the cc's. They lack a little in the upper mid-range, but I love my CS-370 and it' stays on the quad for cleaning up on the property year round.
The CS-670/6700 and large 800/8000's were just OK. I hated the air filter on the larger 800 and the CS-670's had "goofy" porting and the power curve was too "narrow" for my liking.
The CS-440 was pretty good, but not overly impressive. The CS-510 FLAT ARS ROCKS your World for 51cc. I dumped all the rest of the Echo's but kept the CS-510, and the CS-370 as mentioned. I'd also add here that ALL of the Echo power equipment that I obtained back in 2003 is still going strong, and in all these years I've had to buy two items, a carb kit and fuel lines for the leaf blower, that's it.
So finally getting to the topic at hand here, this is my take on the deal.
Echo has came along and cleaned up and improved several of their designs even more. The CS-620 is among the new line of saws they have developed. Knowing what I know about Echo power equipment, I'd grab up one of those in a second and never look back. The warranty is excellent, Echo also has excellent parts support, and with very few exceptions all the threads and reviews for that saw have been quite positive on this site. Hope this helps some?......Cliff
The Dolmar's are very rare in my area, Stihl has most of the market locked up these days, back in the 1980's Husqvarna's were the saw to get and got a good foothold on the market here and kept it for quite a while. Echo's have always been around, but their power equipment seems to be more popular for the most part than their chain saws, but this is likely to change in the coming years...IMHO
Over the years I've watched Echo continue to build and improved their saws. I bought a few early units back in the 1980's, with the spark plug down by the handle and/or reed valve engines they were complete "turds" for sure. In 2003 I met a depot level tech from Echo and he offered newer model Echo saws to test for him, among other power equipment. I ended up with a garden tiller, string trimmer, leaf blower, and half a dozen chainsaws. ALL of that equipment has been absolutely problem free and dead solid reliable now for over 12 years. Even with that said, I found several of those saws to be a bit anemic. That simply happens when you compare them to Husqvarna 262XP/269XPS and 181SE models, which were about as good for power to weight as you'll find from that era.
Anyhow, I ran the dog living piss out of everything he gave me, cutting none of it any slack anyplace, and comparing all the chain saws to my excellent line-up of Husqvarna saws.
The CS-370/400's are tough as nails, with great power (torque) for the cc's. They lack a little in the upper mid-range, but I love my CS-370 and it' stays on the quad for cleaning up on the property year round.
The CS-670/6700 and large 800/8000's were just OK. I hated the air filter on the larger 800 and the CS-670's had "goofy" porting and the power curve was too "narrow" for my liking.
The CS-440 was pretty good, but not overly impressive. The CS-510 FLAT ARS ROCKS your World for 51cc. I dumped all the rest of the Echo's but kept the CS-510, and the CS-370 as mentioned. I'd also add here that ALL of the Echo power equipment that I obtained back in 2003 is still going strong, and in all these years I've had to buy two items, a carb kit and fuel lines for the leaf blower, that's it.
So finally getting to the topic at hand here, this is my take on the deal.
Echo has came along and cleaned up and improved several of their designs even more. The CS-620 is among the new line of saws they have developed. Knowing what I know about Echo power equipment, I'd grab up one of those in a second and never look back. The warranty is excellent, Echo also has excellent parts support, and with very few exceptions all the threads and reviews for that saw have been quite positive on this site. Hope this helps some?......Cliff
Ill take the one without the "auto tune" first. I own quite a few $1 screw drivers that travel easy...
Idahonative
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^^^^One of the best, non-biased, posts I've seen in a long time.^^^^
"6100 is so much better on fuel economy which means you do not have to lug around that extra fuel all day."
How much is the REAL fuel consuption what you realized between the 6100 and the 562xp...???
What do you think, why the Husqvarna using outboard clutch in many case of their pro saws?
My opinion is, the inside and the outside clutch has benefits too!
CoreyB
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More fuel than .1 kg a day which is the wight difference between the 562 and 6100 this .1 kg is why some say that the 6100 is soooo heavy compared to the 562"6100 is so much better on fuel economy which means you do not have to lug around that extra fuel all day."
How much is the REAL fuel consuption what you realized between the 6100 and the 562xp...???
What do you think, why the Husqvarna using outboard clutch in many case of their pro saws?
My opinion is, the inside and the outside clutch has benefits too!
And yes both clutches have benefits but from my view that none of the outboard benefits out way the down side of them. But that is my point of view. Some share it and some don't.
