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I scrounge wood, trees already down. I wouldlike your guys opinion on one good saw that will be good for many years. I currently have a husqvarna 141 and feel it is to small. The diameter of logs varies, and some wood is already cut to length. What is one saw you guys would not leave home with out. Husky 359, 357?? I dont want to spend a fortune if not needed. I burn maybe 4 cord a year and thats it. I probably have no other use for the saw than cutting my own firewood. Thanks for every one who replies
 
Never used a Husky, couldn't say that way.

A good middle of the road saw, if you only want to own one, Stihl MS361, 20", and 24" bar. Sharp chains.

Last you many years, with proper maintenance, and don't forget the PPE.
 
Do you have a price range? What type of wood are you cutting? Also are you set on Husky? Do you have a Dolmar dealer in your area? How many questions can you answer?:D
 
Being as this is my first year scrounging I dont have a great gauge on what size would and species. My citie brings all the trees to one area and you can cut all day long on them. I live in Ohio and believe its mostly maple and Oak. I could be wrong. I believe 20 inches would probably be on the larger size of whats available, but then again I dont know. I would just pass up the stuff to big I suppose. I dont know of a dolmar dealer. Its Stihl or Husky. I currently have a husky 141, and like it. So I am leaning towards Husky. I have been reading and it seems the 353 maybe a good choice? I dont know wich one are professional, seems I read there was one built on a pro chassis but may of been cheaper than a full pro saw. Hopefully I have giuven some more insight on what I need.

Thanks
 
At four cords a year, you don't need a pro saw. Actually, you can probably get by just fine with a box store Poulon Pro or a whatever they are branding with the Craftsman name these days.

If you must have one of the big names, then go with the "homeowner" or "farm" level models.

The other saws mentioned are good solid machines, but why spend the money if you don't need that level of quality? Take the money you save and buy a set of chaps, eye and ear protection, a file guide, a couple of plastic wedges, and some spare chains.
 
Thanks for the additional information.

A 60cc saw in a light, trim package will probably be your best bet for an all-around saw. The Stihl MS361 would be a great saw for your purposes, as would a Husqvarna 357xp. For a few bucks less (and a bit less in the performance department, too) Husqvarna's 359 would be another good choice.

EDIT: Upon further reflection, you might want to also consider the Stihl MS290/310 and Husqvarna 350/353. These are less powerful but are also less expensive, and should meet your needs pretty well, too. Of those four, only the 353 is a magnesium-cased pro-grade saw. The others have plastic engine cradles/oil tanks. The Stihls in this class are very heavy for their power output, but are renowned for their reliability nonetheless. The Husqvarna 350 is probably the best value in a 50cc saw that you are likely to find, and has a very good reputation for being a durable, handy, reliable $300 saw!

The only caveat with the Husqvarnas is that if they have a green gas cap then you will REALLY want to replace the muffler with the earlier non-Catalytic converter version. These e-Tech, green-cap saws run too hot, too lean, and are choked down on their performance potential. This will add about $40 to the price of the saw and is not warranty-approved.

In a saw this size you will probably want to have a 16" and 20" bar, or possiblly a 16" and 24" bar if you anticipate spending a lot of time in the bigger stuff. When you're cutting on a wood pile there is NO benefit to running a longer bar than necessary. In fact, a shorter bar is probably safer so that you don't end up sticking the tip into the next log in the pile, causing the saw to kick back at ya. When cutting on a wood pile or bucking up logs that are in/on a trailer, I've found it works well to cut most of the way through the log with a short bar for a number of pieces and then roll the log with a cant hook and finish the cuts. For this sort of use a long bar is a real disadvantage.
 
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So far after more research, do i want a .325 or 3/8 capable chain? This might eliminate the 353. I like the 353 or 359 so far.
 
So far after more research, do i want a .325 or 3/8 capable chain? This might eliminate the 353. I like the 353 or 359 so far.

It makes no difference, except to the extent that the chain pitch and powerhead should be correctly matched for optimum performance. On a 353 I would want to run .325" pitch and I would want 3/8" pitch on the 359 to take advantage of its larger displacement and greater torque. I would run a 16" bar as my primary bar on both saws.

Either of those saws will make a great all-around firewood scrounger saw, so you really can't go wrong with either of them. The 353 is similar in performance to my old 026Pro (16", .325" chain), and it recently cut up some 15-20" ash and white oak logs with ease. A more powerful saw, obviously, would make faster work of the same wood, but that speed comes at a price - $$$ and lbs.
 
Thanks,

Basically I am at a point of how much to spend. It all come down to that, and trying to find happy meadium. Local dealer is pushing the 350 or the 455.
350 at 339.00 and the 455 at 375.00 both with 18" bars. The 353 is 409.00What you think?
 
Thanks,

Basically I am at a point of how much to spend. It all come down to that, and trying to find happy meadium. Local dealer is pushing the 350 or the 455.
350 at 339.00 and the 455 at 375.00 both with 18" bars. The 353 is 409.00What you think?

SKIP THE 455!

OK, good, got that out of the way.

Those prices are OK. Not great, but not too terribly out of line. Amickssuperstore.com, an arboristsite sponsor, is selling the 353 for $349+shipping, so you're not really paying *that* much more to buy from your local dealer. I'll skip the full discussion of the virtues of buying from a dealer and cultivating a positive customer-seller/servicer relationship versus buying online, since that's been covered a million times before in the chainsaw forum, but if you're not comfortable doing your own set-up, tuning, repairs and maintenance, then you will want to consider buying from the dealer.

If he wants to sell the 353 for $409, see about downgrading to a 16" bar and having him throw in a couple extra loops of chain, or some oil, or something along those lines. Then you'll be getting a very competitive deal without trying to screw your dealer. And don't forget to get the proper protective gear if you don't have it already - chaps, eye protection, ear protection, etc!
 
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Thanks,

you have been very helpful. I think the 353 sounds like a good saw. I went out and looked at the wood I will be cutting and mostly fall 14-20 inch range. I know you said 16 inch bar on the 353 but what about the 18? I feel I will need the 18 inch often. Of course I am not an experience wood cutter so maybe you know better. Could you expand on the reason the 16" bar?
 
Thanks,

you have been very helpful. I think the 353 sounds like a good saw. I went out and looked at the wood I will be cutting and mostly fall 14-20 inch range. I know you said 16 inch bar on the 353 but what about the 18? I feel I will need the 18 inch often. Of course I am not an experience wood cutter so maybe you know better. Could you expand on the reason the 16" bar?


It is largely just a matter of personal preference, but there is a little logic to it, too.

The preference - I happen to be a 16, 20, 28, 36, 42" bar person. I've run saws with 18" bars and have never quite seen the point - not as nimble as the 16", not as long as the 20". Since I started with 16, 20, 28", I have never really had a need for an 18" or the desire to have to keep a stock of loops of chain in yet another size.

The logic - I have found that the little 10-12lb saws feel best with a 16" bar, in terms of balance. I ran a Jonsered 2152 (a 353 in red-and-black clothing) a few months ago and thought that the balance with a 16" was about perfect.

And there is not very much that an 18" can do that a 16" can't do as well AND with better balance on a saw like the 353. I've run 16" and 20" bars on my 026Pro and without a doubt feel that saws in that weight/power class are happier with the 16" - the engine is happier, the user is happier, and the wood gets cut all the same. Incidentally, the folks over in Norway like their 353s with 13" and 15" bars for balance and a high power-to-bar-length ratio, and all they have to cut is softwood!

In the event that you really need a longer bar than your 16", then you can make a meaningful jump up to a 20" bar and run skip chain. This seems like the optimum combination for a saw in the 353 class in hardwood - a 16" with standard chain and a 20" bar with skip chain.

Also, and this is kind of a bit of "yeah, so what?!" logic, there are more deals out there on 16" and 20" loops of chain than there are for 18" loops. Does this really matter? Probably not, but it is a small advantage all the same.
 
makes perfect sense. I did find a dolmar dealer? 5100 for 399.00 anyone care to comment?


Yup - that is another creature all together. $399 is a good price. Outruns 353, 359, and nips on the heels of the Stihl 361 in smaller wood. It is a great saw, and if you have a dealer nearby then you should give that saw VERY serious consideration. Anti-vibe is great, air filtration is great, power-to-weight is great, and it makes an honest 4hp. It will happily run a 20" bar in hardwood, and will be a powerhouse with a 16" (which I would still choose as my primary bar on this saw, too).

Pop over to the chainsaw forum and do some reading on the 5100. Lots of talk over there about this saw.
 
So far after more research, do i want a .325 or 3/8 capable chain? This might eliminate the 353. I like the 353 or 359 so far.

Probably doesn't matter too much, but my choice would be the 3/8" for scrounge cutting, less to file. I'd also think about semi- chisel chain.

Basically I am at a point of how much to spend. It all come down to that, and trying to find happy meadium. Local dealer is pushing the 350 or the 455.
350 at 339.00 and the 455 at 375.00 both with 18" bars. The 353 is 409.00What you think?

I would pick the 353 out of those choices. Something in the 60cc range might work out better for you though.
 
makes perfect sense. I did find a dolmar dealer? 5100 for 399.00 anyone care to comment?

Will they let you try one out? And does the dolmar dealer sel other saws? Maybe you could try a few side by side.
 
Dolmar seems like a good option. I could run a 3/8 chain and be under 400. A husky comparble would be the 359...right? its 499.00, big jump.
 

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