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  1. 10-01-2010, 02:02 PM #1
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    Sheriff eliminates 72 hour rule

    Spokane Sheriff Ozzie Knesovich abandoned the 72 hour wait period before interviewing officers invovled in shootings.

    http://www.spokesman.com/stories/201...ooting-probes/

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    Investigators probing officer-involved shootings will no longer be required to wait at least 72 hours before interviewing Spokane County Sheriffs Office employees.

    Sheriff Ozzie Knezovich announced the change Thursday, ending a departmental practice common at many law enforcement agencies but seen as contradictory and confusing outside of police circles. Comment: Not "confusing" but totally unfair as a civilian would not get the same consideration


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    Knezovich said the policy originated in the 1990s. Its no longer in effect as of Thursday.

    When something doesnt make sense, we change it, he said.
    comment: Geez and it only took 20 years of people screaming about it in every shooting over the years for hime to realize that.

    Sheriffs Office employees involved in uses of deadly force can now give in-depth interviews immediately but still have the right to obtain a lawyer and cannot be coerced to make a statement during the criminal investigation.

    Were just going to leave it up to the U.S. Constitution and the deputy to determine if hes ready to give a statement, Knezovich said. Were not to stand in their way. comment: about time. Takes awy the 3 day period they had to get their stories straight with their buddies.

    Sheriffs spokesman Sgt. Dave Reagan said there was never a reason to change the policy until now.

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    Were having people who are apparently indicating they dont need to wait 72 hours, Reagan said. It seems reasonable. You go with the comfort level of the person involved in the shooting

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    Creachs son, Alan Creach, praised the decision.

    Something that was just completely unacceptable to the community has been disposed of, Alan Creach said

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    And for an example of a Sergeant stepping on his crank!

    Meanwhile, in a meeting Thursday with Spokane-area journalists, Reagan criticized the media attention given to Alan Creach during the days following the fatal shooting. He said he expects the Creach family to file a claim against the county and suggested Alan Creach simply was trying to increase the size of a potential settlement payout.

    Ive never seen a non-witness be treated so much like an eyewitness, Reagan said. Hes looking at adding zeroes to his check.

    ...


    Reagan later sought to downplay the comment, expressing regret for how it came out, and saying it was not my most tactful moment.Ya can say that again!

    Knezovich quickly distanced himself from his chief spokesman, saying the comment doesnt reflect his offices views. The sheriff added that Reagan told him Thursday afternoon he regretted making the comment.

    Harry K (guess that was almost the whole article minus a rehash of the shooting)
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  2. 10-01-2010, 02:39 PM #2
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    I see it like this, if involved in a shooting then they should be interviewed immediately before they have time to smooth out any rough edges if ya know what I mean.....they should also be forbidden to watch or listen to any video or audio before hand that shows or tells what happen, if that isn't already how it works....
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  3. 10-01-2010, 02:42 PM #3
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    A 72 hour rule, my ass. Arrest John Q. Citizen and wait 72 hours before questioning him/her or it is discrimination.
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  4. 10-01-2010, 03:09 PM #4
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    wheres cassandra?
    i never knew such a ridiculous rule existed.. thats crazy
    72 hours for them to all get their stories straight,while the body is full of holes.. makes perfect sense really for the biggest gang in the country to get their affairs in order before having to explain their killings
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  5. 10-01-2010, 03:20 PM #5
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    banshee

    needs to pay better attention the 72 hour rules been discussed here multiple times. in some areas its 5 days i've heard a week. i presume the cops there aren't union? if they have a union and contract it should get interesting. cop still can invoke the 5th
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    The officer (s) involved should be questioned right away - directly after involved in an incident. That is a strange rule - I will have to ask my sister if that rule is commonplace in MT - seems odd to not interview the officer directly.
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  7. 10-01-2010, 03:37 PM #7
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    around here

    they can be questioned, they just have the option to say i want to wait till i calm down/ see a lawyer. the unions did that.
    they thought they had need/reasons.
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    isnt refusing the answer questions a charge for us civilians? something like interfering with a police investigation? obstruction of justice?
    how can someone fire off a gun, end another human beings life.. then have the right to say they dont wana talk about it?!
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    isnt refusing the answer questions a charge for us civilians? something like interfering with a police investigation? obstruction of justice?
    how can someone fire off a gun, end another human beings life.. then have the right to say they dont wana talk about it?! and then they probably get a few paid days off on top of it , right? maybe some free therapy sessions, and a bottle of pills?
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    public school?

    isnt refusing the answer questions a charge for us civilians? something like interfering with a police investigation? obstruction of justice?

    nope they teach the constitution in jersey? or were you out that day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by banshee67 View Post
    isnt refusing the answer questions a charge for us civilians? something like interfering with a police investigation? obstruction of justice?
    how can someone fire off a gun, end another human beings life.. then have the right to say they dont wana talk about it?! and then they probably get a few paid days off on top of it , right? maybe some free therapy sessions, and a bottle of pills?
    now banshee, you know that there are three types of people in this country that have a different set of rules and cops are one of them, I'll let you decide the other two.....
    I'm just a stupid ex-utility line clearance Hack that knows nothing so I say..."Don't Top it-Just Drop it" R.I.P DALE, you are not forgotten..

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    damn

    no constitution in nc either? or just more public school?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cassandrasdaddy View Post
    no constitution in nc either? or just more public school?
    it lives.....
    I'm just a stupid ex-utility line clearance Hack that knows nothing so I say..."Don't Top it-Just Drop it" R.I.P DALE, you are not forgotten..

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    lol

    he hides from the constitution actually they both do
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    Quote Originally Posted by cassandrasdaddy View Post
    he hides from the constitution actually they both do
    no hiding here buddy.........
    I'm just a stupid ex-utility line clearance Hack that knows nothing so I say..."Don't Top it-Just Drop it" R.I.P DALE, you are not forgotten..

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