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Thread: Arizona Cops Shoot Former Marine In Botched Pot Raid

  1. 05-29-2011, 04:57 AM #1
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    Arizona Cops Shoot Former Marine In Botched Pot Raid

    How does this happen in America?

    Jose Guerena Killed: Arizona Cops Shoot Former Marine In Botched Pot Raid
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  2. 05-29-2011, 06:55 AM #2
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    WOW.I thought this quote sums this unfortunate story up.70 shots fired?The modus here seems to be maximum lethality.



    To buy what Storie is pitching, you would have to believe that Guerena -- the father of two young boys, who was working a night job to save money for a new home, who had no criminal record, who served two tours of duty in Iraq and was honorably discharged -- knowingly took on a team of armored, well-armed police officers, himself armed only with his rifle, and with his wife and young child still in the home. You'd also have to believe that the battle-tested former Marine forgot to turn off his weapon's safety before the shooting began.

    The alternate explanation -- and I think the more plausible one -- is that Guerena thought the men breaking into his home were criminals, but held his fire until he was sure. (That's also the mark of someone well-trained in gun safety, and a stark contrast to the SWAT team, which despite never receiving hostile fire, unleashed a barrage of bullets that penetrated not only Jose Guerena but, according to sources I spoke with, also the walls of neighboring homes.)
    "el Jefe beater get poasen. preiushandslaber bringen teh wtj coup for soup - prmecy. he that controals teh soup controals the hearts and minds teh wtf is good. but its all about the soup" - (Woodbooga)
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  3. 05-29-2011, 07:02 AM #3
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    i take it

    you haven't seen the video?

    how does this in the front yard not tell you "cops"!
    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2610/...c5038b6036.jpg

    at 9:30 am with guys with shields with police on em oh i forgot the siren
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  4. 05-29-2011, 07:10 AM #4
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    Care to provide a real link and not some still photo of an urban assault vehicle?
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    "el Jefe beater get poasen. preiushandslaber bringen teh wtj coup for soup - prmecy. he that controals teh soup controals the hearts and minds teh wtf is good. but its all about the soup" - (Woodbooga)
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  5. 05-29-2011, 07:26 AM #5
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    are the two of you

    really acting out some autoerotic fantasy without seeing the helmet cam vid of the actual entry? there are links in the other thread about it. heres a hint balko and grigg have gotten quiet the truth is harshing their mellow
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  6. 05-29-2011, 07:27 AM #6
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    Its storys and accounts just like this that make me hang up the phone when a law agency ( sheriff dept, state troopers, local police) call and want money to fund a widow or widowers account for their own. I too have been treated wrongfully in the past, not as serious as getting shot though.
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    even

    for a balko piece that story is full of "less than truthful" statements. he must need to beat the drum extra loud to lure in the suckers. and look! its working!
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    Someone whom does not question the use of excessive force,and call for full accountability by our CIVILIAN law enforcement is the sucker.

    1930's Germany anyone?
    "el Jefe beater get poasen. preiushandslaber bringen teh wtj coup for soup - prmecy. he that controals teh soup controals the hearts and minds teh wtf is good. but its all about the soup" - (Woodbooga)
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    sounds like another group of pigs that need a bullet in the back of the neck for there stupid mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cassandrasdaddy View Post
    for a balko piece that story is full of "less than truthful" statements. he must need to beat the drum extra loud to lure in the suckers. and look! its working!
    Kind of like the police version where the knocked and waited 45 seconds then knocked and waited 45 seconds and then knocked and waited then broke in the door. I saw the helmet cam, where there was one burst of siren. They got out knocked one time and busted in
    the door. In my opinion they looked very unprofessional, if the guy had intended to kill them, likely law enforcement would have had casualties as well.
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    If it had been an illegal alien that the cops shot, Eric Holder would be all over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freehandslabber View Post
    Care to provide a real link and not some still photo of an urban assault vehicle?
    careful,,your questioning the supeme authority................................................
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    Quote Originally Posted by olyman View Post
    careful,,your questioning the supeme authority................................................
    Bullschit.
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    "el Jefe beater get poasen. preiushandslaber bringen teh wtj coup for soup - prmecy. he that controals teh soup controals the hearts and minds teh wtf is good. but its all about the soup" - (Woodbooga)
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    hmmmm

    New Details: 9OYS obtains Jose Guerena's 2009 arrest record - KGUN9 On Your Side, Tucson News, Weather & Sports

    http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/kgun/...%20Guerena.pdf

    Dupnik: Raid stemmed from 20-month probe

    Tucson SWAT attorney talks about recently released material | fox11az.com Tucson
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    Terrifically transparent.


    "But details of the investigation into Jose Guerena's activities won't be released because an informant for the Sheriff's Department could be in danger, Dupnik said.
    "There's a chance that our informant is going to get killed," he said.

    The search warrants with a list of all items seized from each of the four homes, and the probable-cause statement explaining the need for the searches have all been sealed.
    Bernini said there was a need for confidentiality when the warrants were sealed May 9, but by now, so much information has been released in this case that the Sheriff's Department must prove there are still critical details in those documents that must be kept confidential."
    "el Jefe beater get poasen. preiushandslaber bringen teh wtj coup for soup - prmecy. he that controals teh soup controals the hearts and minds teh wtf is good. but its all about the soup" - (Woodbooga)
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