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  1. 12-12-2011, 07:08 PM #1
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    Even Tires Get PMS

    Thanks to Ford Explorers and Firestone, we now have Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) sensors in each tire of newer cars. Apparently, this was easier than sticking a tire pressure gauge in the glove box of each new car with the owner's manual.

    What they don't tell you, and apparently don't tell a lot of the guys who work at tire stores, is that if they break the bead of the tire near the valve stem, they will probably damage/destroy the sensor/sending unit. They also don't tell you that replacing it will probably cost more than the tire. $90 + labor for a Honda Civic, then maybe a trip to the dealer to get the TPMS computer to 'recognize' the new sensor.

    Ask me how I know all this . . . .

    Four trips to the tire store to fix a nail. One more should do the trick.

    Anyway, fair warning if you change your own tires, or if you are getting new tires on a later model car. Apparently, the computer can be taught to recognize extra sensors, in case you have extra wheels that you periodically swap out (like for snow tires).

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  2. 12-12-2011, 07:25 PM #2
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    And don't fergit the nitrogen. Ya need that.

    I was going through problems with my wife's 4 runner and the boys ( yup, boys) and the place my wife takes it to be bull####ted were attempting to bull#### me. It was this, it was that, it was interference from the radio waves from the car next to it, it was 2 million dollars. I heard but did not listen, I said " put a regular valve stem in it" A sudden eiry hush fell across the shop but attempts at resistance were futile. Problem ####ing solved.
    The problem with mine was the valve core was leaking, it was stripped. They had put two BFG's on it recently.

    Now if I could figure how to get the thing in low loc without setting Defcon 5...
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  3. 12-12-2011, 09:44 PM #3
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    Weeell, that TPMS is brought to everyone coutesy of the EPA. A summary:

    What vehicle types does the TREAD Act cover?
    The TREAD Act/FMVSS 138 covers mostly all passenger vehicles including light duty vehicles under 10,000 lbs gross volume weight, and including certain trucks and buses. However, the regulation does not cover motorcycles and light duty vehicles with dual wheels on an axle.
    More here

    Voilations ? who knows.
    Prolly take your tire gauge away and send ya off to driver ed
    Just a fist full a dollars headed the wrong way.

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    And don't fergit the nitrogen. Ya need that.

    I was going through problems with my wife's 4 runner and the boys ( yup, boys) and the place my wife takes it to be bull####ted were attempting to bull#### me. It was this, it was that, it was interference from the radio waves from the car next to it, it was 2 million dollars. I heard but did not listen, I said " put a regular valve stem in it" A sudden eiry hush fell across the shop but attempts at resistance were futile. Problem ####ing solved.
    The problem with mine was the valve core was leaking, it was stripped. They had put two BFG's on it recently.

    Now if I could figure how to get the thing in low loc without setting Defcon 5...
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    Stopid idiot ligjht

    And....


    after you check all four on the ground - DON'T FORGET THE SPARE!!!!




    Damn thing on a Tocuma. Spent half an hour trying to get the light off; spare was 4 psi low!
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    Ever air up a clench ring 13x24 with a grader tire on it that was leaking for some time with calcium choride? Really, you gonna let a computer chip bother you?
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    Just run old iron.
    None of that silly **** to waste time on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lfnh View Post
    Just run old iron.
    None of that silly **** to waste time on.
    Umm, how old? Cause I'm hunkered down like a soldier on the Nevada test site airing stuff up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Umm, how old? Cause I'm hunkered down like a soldier on the Nevada test site airing stuff up.
    How old -


    Pre 00 is a pretty good guess - that is 2000 - not that 1800's stuff ya diggin up Marco!

    Altho, I like ya stile!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Umm, how old? Cause I'm hunkered down like a soldier on the Nevada test site airing stuff up.
    20 yo dodge cummins mfi m4wd

    Oliver old.
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    Allis Tractomotive TL12 circa 1958, wd45-d17 engine on a slushbox with 4 driven 13x24s holding up 6 ton. Still has Deerfield Park District stickers on it where she was made. Purchased from a retired shop foreman from US Strange in Evanston. See my life ain't boring. Wish the thing cut a little wider track cause it cause's me to fart bubbles when the high wheel on my end goes over a stump.
    Not mine, but the same idea.

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    link ? scratch

    yeah. old good US iron. nice stuff
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    I have to work on TPMS at work. The Ford sensors are band clamped to the rim and use a regular valve stem. Other than breaking the band once in a while they are pretty good. The style shown in the pic is aluminum and has corrosion issues in the northern climates where salt is used. Just another thing to go wrong with your car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rookie1 View Post
    I have to work on TPMS at work. The Ford sensors are band clamped to the rim and use a regular valve stem. Other than breaking the band once in a while they are pretty good. (
    When a Ford sensor gets replaced, does the car automatically recognize it, or does it have to be 'intorudced' to the TPMS brain?

    Did they give you a life expenctancy for the sensors? I heard that they have a non-replaceable battery in them.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Umm, how old? Cause I'm hunkered down like a soldier on the Nevada test site airing stuff up.
    Good God Marco.... the stuff you have was before they invented rubber...



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    After changing a "Few" tires with these , I can say "They Suck!" Dodge ones can break when you take the valve center out , change a Chev tire and and the low tire light stays on , Fords have sensors on a band clamp but the sensor is never located in the same place so watch out .
    The way I see it , just another way for the manufacturers to make the consumer pay for .001 mpg better instead of themselves in a more efficient engine .
    Just a whole bunch of more electronic crap .
    The nitrogen thing well , someone figured how to make $$ out of what we already have , 78% of what you breath is nitrogen Atmosphere of Earth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and if tires were that porous to oxygen you should only have to top up your tires a couple of times and presto .
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