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  1. 01-26-2005, 06:35 AM #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by spacemule
    While pork insulin is still available, the vast majority is completely synthetic and has been for the last 15 years.
    Haha. Shows how long it's been since I've read anything on it.
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  2. 01-26-2005, 07:58 AM #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by che
    Al & Curt, thanks for the info.

    Curt, it's too bad that your area is overpopulated....pushing the foxes into your neighborhood. No win situation....but I know who's going to lose.

    As far as them being rabid, that's one thing nice being in a rural area.....I can just consider them ALL (coyotes, skunks, raccoons, 'possums, fox, etc.) possibly rabid. There's enough ROOM, that unless they're acting wacky....I can just let them go their own way. There's a skunk in our barn that I'm not so happy to share areas with though......

    They have recently (last 5 yrs) released some type of wolf here. I work on 2 federal sites in the summer (Voice of America) and I have seen one of these with a little cub. It was cool. I have also seen on the VOA sites, herd of albino deer, alligator or croc, Bald Eagle, Grey and Red foxes, hundreds of deer and more common wildlife. I am into the observing part also. I use to hunt during my teenage years but I lost interest. I guess it was an age thing for me.
    But on the rabid foxes around here, you can spot them out easily. They come closer to public places. Just acts alot more bolder than they usually would. I would not hesitate to put one down but I have not been put in that situation. Mostly because a rabid animal has lost its mind. We have a red fox that comes out in the back field behind my house, he tends to his own business and he is left alone.

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  3. 01-26-2005, 08:18 AM #63
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    One thing Mark forgot to mention is WHY he has offset jaws on his traps (he also has the jaws laminated, which means they have more surface area there by putting less pressure on the animals foot). The offset of the jaws allows the blood to continue to circulate. I don't know how many times I've had an "expert" (I use that term in this instance LOSELY!!!) tell me that an animal will chew their foot off to get away. I've trapped litteraly thousands of animals and have yet to see that. We also use the smallest trap we can for a given animal to elimanate ANY possiblity that it might chew (the animal wouldn't be able to chew if it wanted to). Most states require a 24 hour trap check meaning that you have to visit each trap once every 24hrs and remove any animal caught. If you have 100 traps out and you catch 15 animals then you're doing well. We also use short trap chains and most folks use shock absorbing springs so that the animal cannot hurt its self by lungeing.
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  4. 01-26-2005, 05:31 PM #64
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    It has been nearly 40 years,since I trapped.In those days,a muskrat was worth about $1.50,mink $12 up,raccoon $4 to $6.In the fox hunting days,a big red ,would bring $45.I used Victor Conibears,which is a body hold trap,and considered the most humane .The larger ones,were not allowed to be set on land,only water sets for beaver,yes,there are beaver in Ohio.I lost interest in hunting,due to the actions of some of the hunters.Shooting the farmers dog,cat,machinery,and just being real morons.I'm still real good with a camera,though . Now,don't take me wrong,I'm not opposed to hunting,it's just not part of my life,now.A crow,however,is a whole other subject.
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  5. 01-26-2005, 06:22 PM #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Smith
    I used Victor Conibears,which is a body hold trap,and considered the most humane .The larger ones,were not allowed to be set on land,only water sets for beaver,yes,there are beaver in Ohio.A crow,however,is a whole other subject.
    You had to go and say Beaver...lol .. Now thats a Rodent that needs extinction. I wont get into that but I feel about beavers what most think of rats. Or like you feel about crow..lol. But thats another story and I dont need to go to far with it. I will be talked about, on animal cruelty. I do live on a family farm with a creek running through it. I am sure you know the rest of the story.

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  6. 01-26-2005, 06:44 PM #66
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    Sure do! They released several pair,in the Columbus area,around 20 years ago.They constantley move up stream.In several years,they reached the south fork of the Licking river,near Utica Ohio.The locals,thought it quite a novelty until they plugged all the field tile,and dammed the river.The last one I saw,was a rug on the floor of my dads cousin Joes home,near Homer O.
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  7. 01-26-2005, 07:02 PM #67
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    During the 2000 trapping season I took 455 beaver in five weeks and they weren't even my primary animal. I was trapping coon, otter, musk rat and bobcat in the swamps and along the drainages but the landowners wanted me to take care of their beaver problem while I was at it. Trapping beaver has gotten me a lot of hunting and trapping access from farmers who normally won't allow hunting on their land.
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  8. 01-27-2005, 04:46 AM #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Willock
    During the 2000 trapping season I took 455 beaver in five weeks and they weren't even my primary animal. I was trapping coon, otter, musk rat and bobcat in the swamps and along the drainages but the landowners wanted me to take care of their beaver problem while I was at it. Trapping beaver has gotten me a lot of hunting and trapping access from farmers who normally won't allow hunting on their land.
    Ryan, did you happen to catch any neuts? I dont think that is spelled right. But they are a cross between a beaver and a musk rat? I am starting to see their population skyrocket around here. They do alot of damage also, with cave ins and such. I have alot of neighbors that dont allow hunting on their land but they are extinguishing the beavers around here. I know I am taking this off topic but I dont see why anyone would mind.

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  9. 01-27-2005, 06:03 AM #69
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    No, I've never caught a Newt. Neutria are a mid size rodent (between a musk rat and beaver in size, about the size of a racoon) from south america and were imported to some of the gulf states for fur farms amungst other uses. They have also migrated this way from the little research that I have done on them. Louisana has a real problem with the newts. The AVERAGE beaver around the hillsboro north carolina area (nc in general really) weighs 55lbs. for an adult going by the 200 or so that I have taken the time to weigh. I caught a monster that weighed 72lbs! I have a pic that I'll post if I can find the time to scan it in. Its not at all uncommon for me to catch one's in the 60lbs range.
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    Neutria, thats it. From some that I have seen on the creek behind my house, they are bigger than the beaver. Between them and the beaver, man they can surely cause alot of damage. I understand there is some good use for a beaver but over population has gotten all the waterways around here in bad shape. I could probably state some things that could get me in trouble over this but its best that I dont get into it too much. But I have gotten to the point that I despise a beaver. I dont feel that towards any other creature. There is a neighbor that has gotten into bad health and the beavers have probably killed 10-20 acres of timber. Eventually its gonna be like that on my fathers farm. In my opinion, since the state brought these suckers in here, they should be made to deal with them. Dams and all. My buddy Al had to bring up beavers...lol.

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    Dynamite or ANFO , a pvcpipe and a blasting cap solves alot of beaver problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bwalker
    Dynamite or ANFO , a pvcpipe and a blasting cap solves alot of beaver problems.

    From my experience with it(dynamite), it is only a temporary fix. If the beavers are still there, there will be more dams.

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  14. 01-27-2005, 11:39 AM #74
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    Curt what county are you in? The state does have full time paid trappers that deal with the beaver problem and they'll even dynamite the dam after they trap the beavers off your property. I was offered a job with the state to do just that a couple of years ago by the head of the department but I declined the offer.
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    From my experience with it(dynamite), it is only a temporary fix. If the beavers are still there, there will be more dams.
    I dunno. It works for the LS&I railroad up here. My brotherin law worked for them during the summer while he was in school. It seems that after thge blew a dam a few times the beavers moved on. He did say that they tended to be a bit over zelous in the amount of explosive used

    FWIW I had some beavers on my property that dammed up a little seasonal creek. It basicly turned 2 acres of my property thats seasonaly wet into a swamp. I shot a 2 and my neighbor trapped 1. problem solved...knock on wood.
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