Some STIHL News From Germany; MS441 C-M

SawTroll said:

Reminds me of the 576xp Auto-tune.......

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andrew346 said:

i hate the idea. These things are fine if they work and stihl is a good company with good products.. they probably will work fine in most cases. But things will always go wrong, everything can develop a fault and when it comes to electronic faults the average amateur mechanic will struggle.

Itll be like cars.. more and more electronics and computers which manage every thing. Some little chip or sensor malfunctions and there you are staring at some circuit board realising youre way out of your depth... The only cure? take it to the dealer.

i know its the future but i hate the way its going. If we're spared some yrs down the line, i wonder how things will go when someone such as myself asks a question about a fault on a saw on this site. "My saw wont start..." - "well take it to the dealer , he'll hook it up to his laptop to read the fault code"

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Uldis said:

Thanks for info!
Looked for it in stihl.de, but couldn't find, but came across these saws I hadn't seen:
Stihl MS 311
Stihl MS 391

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andrew346 said:

i hate the idea. These things are fine if they work and stihl is a good company with good products.. they probably will work fine in most cases. But things will always go wrong, everything can develop a fault and when it comes to electronic faults the average amateur mechanic will struggle.

Itll be like cars.. more and more electronics and computers which manage every thing. Some little chip or sensor malfunctions and there you are staring at some circuit board realising youre way out of your depth... The only cure? take it to the dealer.

i know its the future but i hate the way its going. If we're spared some yrs down the line, i wonder how things will go when someone such as myself asks a question about a fault on a saw on this site. "My saw wont start..." - "well take it to the dealer , he'll hook it up to his laptop to read the fault code"

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drgnarr said:

Well Said, You will have to take your non-working saw in to the shop and pay $80 bucks to have them hook it up to some sort of computer analyzer!

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Hddnis said:

Guys, take it easy on the computer saws.

Used to be you had to be a gearhead to get more power out of a car. Now most of them you can plug in a computer chip and see instant gains; no greasy fingers, no garage full of tools, no busted knuckles.

Saws will get there too. It won't be long before you log in here and see a thread about hacking the controller and getting more from a saw by plugging it into your USB port.

Sure the first few models will have bugs, time will work them out. It was the same way with carbs of yesteryear; they are fairly reliable now, but were a total pain in the early days.


Mr. HE

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Hddnis said:

Guys, take it easy on the computer saws.

Used to be you had to be a gearhead to get more power out of a car. Now most of them you can plug in a computer chip and see instant gains; no greasy fingers, no garage full of tools, no busted knuckles.

Saws will get there too. It won't be long before you log in here and see a thread about hacking the controller and getting more from a saw by plugging it into your USB port.

Sure the first few models will have bugs, time will work them out. It was the same way with carbs of yesteryear; they are fairly reliable now, but were a total pain in the early days.


Mr. HE

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Net-Knight1 said:

Hello from Bavaria/Germany,

some News what's goin' on Overseas.
I don't know if you're interested in, but i'm telling you.

Stihl throws a MS441 C-M saw on the early 2010 Market. It uses a full electronic Carburetor called "M-Tronic", no carb settings needed/possible.

"The fully electronic engine management system eliminates manual carburetor settings unnecessary, and automatically checks for optimum ignition timing and fuel metering. This manifests itself in a very comfortable, significantly simplified startup process, optimum power delivery and rapid acceleration"


Don't know if the Saw would be available in the US.


Sorry for my bad writing, but I'm tryin'.


Greetings from Bavaria/Germany.

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Zombiechopper said:

I agree. It's not all doom and gloom!

The chip tuning available for example on the little VW diesels is extraordinary.

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andrew346 said:

i hate the idea. These things are fine if they work and stihl is a good company with good products.. they probably will work fine in most cases. But things will always go wrong, everything can develop a fault and when it comes to electronic faults the average amateur mechanic will struggle.

Itll be like cars.. more and more electronics and computers which manage every thing. Some little chip or sensor malfunctions and there you are staring at some circuit board realising youre way out of your depth... The only cure? take it to the dealer.

i know its the future but i hate the way its going. If we're spared some yrs down the line, i wonder how things will go when someone such as myself asks a question about a fault on a saw on this site. "My saw wont start..." - "well take it to the dealer , he'll hook it up to his laptop to read the fault code"

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MotorSeven said:

Yep!

This is why I love my '68 & 72 chevy trucks....I can work on them myself. Techno nerds everywhere are wetting their pants in anticipation of a completly computer controlled world.

Us neanderthals are dying out.....again.....{sniff}

RD

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MotorSeven said:

Yep!

This is why I love my '68 & 72 chevy trucks....I can work on them myself. Techno nerds everywhere are wetting their pants in anticipation of a completly computer controlled world.

Us neanderthals are dying out.....again.....{sniff}

RD

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