My bradford pears

xtremetrees · 03-09-2006, 07:05 AM

The home owner reached as high as they could but left alot of 3 inch stubbs. I elevated another 2 feet

whatchathink?

xtremetrees · 03-09-2006, 07:07 AM

heres more.
I know there is a great debate wheather to top them, Being a C.A. I cannot top them so eventually they will fail due to included bark.

xtremetrees · 03-09-2006, 07:08 AM

the end

TreeCo · 03-09-2006, 07:14 AM

I need to get this post in so I can come back and edit in my opinion after everyone else speaks up.

Those pears are razed up!

Elmore · 03-09-2006, 07:21 AM

raze also rase (rz)
tr.v. razed also rased, raz·ing also ras·ing, raz·es also ras·es
1. To level to the ground; demolish. See Synonyms at ruin.
2. To scrape or shave off.
3. Archaic To erase.

Sounds like a good plan for Bradford Pears.
Dan, do they look good...?

Elmore · 03-09-2006, 07:22 AM

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Redbull · 03-09-2006, 07:23 AM

Could you not have accomplished the same amount of lift by making smaller, more discriminate cuts towards the ends and off the bottom of those limbs? Seems pretty extreme to me.

xtremetrees · 03-09-2006, 07:40 AM

I really only took 3 or 6 limbs off each tree the other cuts are just clean ups.
As I said the home owner reached pretty high. I just accenuated what they tried I will present these at the MG's slideshow.?

Should I have topped them out? I think it would extend the life span decreased because of bad branch union. But during winter theyd look really bad

Yes there are two way you can go by but in the long run.. bla bla

xtremetrees · 03-09-2006, 07:51 AM

I see alot of homeowners gettting them rounded off.

Here's just another way they like them, I think my trimming is more along ISA lines than rounding them off. Ive done that too,

xtremetrees · 03-09-2006, 07:57 AM

Your saying top them? Leave them alone? The homeowner had already started elevation. I know they dont look so hot,

I have headed them back, leaving holes in them starting with smallest limbs and thinning, I never got to see them fill in thou.

This is exactly what the homeowner wanted, who payed me.

xtremetrees · 03-09-2006, 07:58 AM

ISA says to trim them starting young and finishing throughout a 25 year period. By then they'd be dead.

NYCHA FORESTER · 03-09-2006, 08:17 AM

They look fine, remember you need clearance for traffic (including emergency vehicles like fire trucks).

Redbull · 03-09-2006, 10:21 AM

Sorry X, I didn't realize the customer cut so much. I't a little more than I would have done, but thats looking at them from Kansas City.

Dadatwins · 03-09-2006, 04:56 PM

My preference is to reduce them from the top by 1/3, I do not call it topping, I call it reduction.

Those cuts will all start suckering out and filling in this year, I would make a case with the customer this fall to reduce them by 1/3 and start giving them a round shape, nature of the tree to have all multi-stemmed included bark but they can be trained and survive with maintainence.

Tree Frog · 03-13-2006, 09:56 PM

Your cuts look nice and clean. As far as the included bark, wouldn't cabling protect them from spltting (dynamic or static)? along with a thining of the canopy.

Wouldn't heading them off cause more problems with latent buds producing multiple leaders in a dense canopy?

03-09-2006, 07:21 AM	#5
Elmore Arboristsite MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: North Alabama Posts: 2,282	Those pears are razed up! raze also rase (rz) tr.v. razed also rased, raz·ing also ras·ing, raz·es also ras·es 1. To level to the ground; demolish. See Synonyms at ruin. 2. To scrape or shave off. 3. Archaic To erase. Sounds like a good plan for Bradford Pears. Dan, do they look good...? __________________ "Imagination without education is like a bird without feet" "Feet entangle birds, words...men"

03-09-2006, 07:22 AM	#6
Elmore Arboristsite MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: North Alabama Posts: 2,282	You can resize your images by using this free and easily used program. http://www.irfanview.com/ Once downloaded and installed, simply select file, then open your file, select image then resize, select the 640 x 480 pixels or any other size desired (hopefully smaller), click okay, then go to file and select save. I generally choose the 640 x 480 pixels option. If you want to keep your outrageously large image, be sure to copy it or rename your resized pic so that it doesn't overwrite your obscenely huge photo. With Windows XP you can resize multiple images in one operation with Power Toys/Image Resizer. You can download Image Resizer in the Power Toys options. Download from the Microsoft page : http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...powertoys.mspx With the Power Toys/Image Resizer, be sure to use the advance tab and choose not to make copies or you'll have too many images in your folders. __________________ "Imagination without education is like a bird without feet" "Feet entangle birds, words...men"

03-09-2006, 07:23 AM	#7
Redbull Arboristsite MVP Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 951	Could you not have accomplished the same amount of lift by making smaller, more discriminate cuts towards the ends and off the bottom of those limbs? Seems pretty extreme to me. __________________ Brandon M. Grosko Grosko Family Lawn & Tree Care "We're the green guys"

03-09-2006, 10:21 AM	#13
Redbull Arboristsite MVP Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 951	Sorry X, I didn't realize the customer cut so much. I't a little more than I would have done, but thats looking at them from Kansas City. __________________ Brandon M. Grosko Grosko Family Lawn & Tree Care "We're the green guys"

03-09-2006, 04:56 PM	#14
Dadatwins Arboristsite MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Central Va Posts: 3,339	My preference is to reduce them from the top by 1/3, I do not call it topping, I call it reduction. Those cuts will all start suckering out and filling in this year, I would make a case with the customer this fall to reduce them by 1/3 and start giving them a round shape, nature of the tree to have all multi-stemmed included bark but they can be trained and survive with maintainence. __________________ We the willing, led by the unknowing are doing the impossible for the ungrateful, and have done so much for so long with nothing, we can now do anything with nothing. 'CLIMBERS CREED'

03-09-2006, 07:14 AM	#4
TreeCo Arborist Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,662	I need to get this post in so I can come back and edit in my opinion after everyone else speaks up. Those pears are razed up!

03-09-2006, 07:40 AM	#8
xtremetrees Banned Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GA Posts: 1,100	I really only took 3 or 6 limbs off each tree the other cuts are just clean ups. As I said the home owner reached pretty high. I just accenuated what they tried I will present these at the MG's slideshow.? Should I have topped them out? I think it would extend the life span decreased because of bad branch union. But during winter theyd look really bad Yes there are two way you can go by but in the long run.. bla bla

03-09-2006, 07:51 AM	#9
xtremetrees Banned Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GA Posts: 1,100	I see alot of homeowners gettting them rounded off. Here's just another way they like them, I think my trimming is more along ISA lines than rounding them off. Ive done that too,

03-09-2006, 07:57 AM	#10
xtremetrees Banned Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GA Posts: 1,100	Your saying top them? Leave them alone? The homeowner had already started elevation. I know they dont look so hot, I have headed them back, leaving holes in them starting with smallest limbs and thinning, I never got to see them fill in thou. This is exactly what the homeowner wanted, who payed me.

03-09-2006, 07:58 AM	#11
xtremetrees Banned Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GA Posts: 1,100	ISA says to trim them starting young and finishing throughout a 25 year period. By then they'd be dead.

03-09-2006, 08:17 AM	#12
NYCHA FORESTER Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: SOUTHEAST NYS Posts: 434	They look fine, remember you need clearance for traffic (including emergency vehicles like fire trucks).

03-13-2006, 09:56 PM	#15
Tree Frog Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Idaho Posts: 115	Your cuts look nice and clean. As far as the included bark, wouldn't cabling protect them from spltting (dynamic or static)? along with a thining of the canopy. Wouldn't heading them off cause more problems with latent buds producing multiple leaders in a dense canopy? __________________ "One is none. Two is one." "Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast."

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