stihl 036 oiling problems

hvy048 · 03-07-2007, 08:37 PM

Well, I'm batting 500 on fleabay saws. The 440 was great, the 036 does a great job of oiling my pants leg and boot. It looks good, runs good, but the chain is getting no oil. I pulled the cover, clutch, etc. There is a lot of oil behind the clutch. I am suspecting the oil delivery hose, but am reluctant to start the saw with it torn apart to prove it.
Any help or insight from you guys would be greatly appreciated.

Griffbm3 · 03-07-2007, 08:44 PM

People here were really quite helpful about it. I took off the plastic chain brake cover after removing the clutch and looked at the oiler. The hose was severed and was spitting the entire compartment full of Bar Oil.

I took lakes advice and used some fuel line for the fix, but the actual oil line kits are a PITA, but are easily available from some of the site sponsors here. Be careful and check the "spigot" that attaches to the oiler itself. It is really easy to break (did that one) and at the other end of the line, it will fit into the very small hole with a brass fitting spreading it out and holding it in place.

Be very careful with the small bolts holding in the oiler too, they are itty bitty threads and can strip (thanks for the warning last time guys) very easily.

Good Luck, and let us know how it comes out.

Jason

hvy048 · 03-07-2007, 08:53 PM

So it is necessary to remove the oil pump?

Griffbm3 · 03-07-2007, 09:00 PM

Just sent you a PM about it...

Jason

drunkenredneck · 03-07-2007, 09:00 PM

Do yourself a favor and pull the clutch and oil pump it will be much easier to fix the line. Don't forget the clutch is reverse thread.

hvy048 · 03-07-2007, 09:11 PM

OK!...oil pump is in hand. I found a distorted delivery line as if it had heat applied to it...like a "heat shrink bubble. Sure enough, it has a pinhole in it.

hvy048 · 03-07-2007, 11:01 PM

I gotta say it again..........YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST!!

Timberhauler · 03-08-2007, 05:43 AM

Imagine that...Yet another Stihl with oiling problems..
Sorry I couldn't resist.

Bowtie · 03-09-2007, 12:11 PM

Can any of you guys tell me what size of hose to use to replace the oil delivery hose on an 034? At least inside diameter would be appreciated. i looked at my shop manual and IPL, didnt get what I was looking for.

Scandy14 · 03-09-2007, 05:47 PM

The best I can measure, the hose is approximately 5/32" ID, and between 15/64" and 1/4" OD.

I just installed the oil line replacement kit last night on my 034 Super, and it was a job, but finally got it done, thanks to some tips that I read that was posted by Lakeside awhile back. Hope this helps.

Lakeside53 · 03-09-2007, 07:42 PM

Buy the Stihl oil hose kit... In addition to the hose, it contains a new brass end and a coil spring to keep the hose from colapsing..Don't try to shoehorn in a no-metric hose size..I n a SQUEEZE, you can use stihl standard fuel line but it may not take the high temps radiated off by the clutch drum.

Kit - part number 1124 007 1010. Cut the hose to exactly 74mm...

Do an AS search for the process... (takes heat..)

Bowtie · 03-09-2007, 08:01 PM

Thanks a bunch Andy. I love this saw, and Im gonna do her up right.

southern man · 03-12-2007, 04:22 PM

Great site.Glad I found you .Was searching for a place to get a (scarce it seems!) workshop manual for an 036 that a lady had in her shed.She wants me to clear a woodland up a bit.First I found the chain gnashed and guide bar bent,chain catch missing.Replaced that,cleaned it up and got all the other bits and pieces to do the job and oh dear! same problem as what hvy048 described.All sounding and looking fine ,but no oil onto the guide bar.I think I have a clear idea it's not the pump,but rather the feed hose.I also find oil coming out of the adjuster screw.Will check hose out tomorrow.Thanks for the tips.Keep up the good work.

hvy048 · 03-12-2007, 05:00 PM

Southern man,
I got some valuable help from folks at this site, and I see you are too. A special thanks to Jason, and Lakeside who helped him get this problem straightened out. It is a great comfort to me to have all this knowledge to tap into.
Jack

southern man · 03-23-2007, 07:35 PM

Thanks a ton for the help.Here I am,sitting all the way in England with a prob and you diagnose it and solve my prob from there in the US.Guess there's some good things to be said for the high tech coms of the modern era,even if it gets a bit stressy at times.Sorry took a while to get back ,but I think I sent my reply the long way round,via a Ms Jennifer Johnson.
All the best till next time.As I say saw's sorted and grand.Was the hose.

03-07-2007, 08:37 PM	#1
hvy048 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Goldendale, Washington Posts: 46	stihl 036 oiling problems Well, I'm batting 500 on fleabay saws. The 440 was great, the 036 does a great job of oiling my pants leg and boot. It looks good, runs good, but the chain is getting no oil. I pulled the cover, clutch, etc. There is a lot of oil behind the clutch. I am suspecting the oil delivery hose, but am reluctant to start the saw with it torn apart to prove it. Any help or insight from you guys would be greatly appreciated.

03-07-2007, 08:44 PM	#2
Griffbm3 Arboristsite MVP Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 632	I had the same problem People here were really quite helpful about it. I took off the plastic chain brake cover after removing the clutch and looked at the oiler. The hose was severed and was spitting the entire compartment full of Bar Oil. I took lakes advice and used some fuel line for the fix, but the actual oil line kits are a PITA, but are easily available from some of the site sponsors here. Be careful and check the "spigot" that attaches to the oiler itself. It is really easy to break (did that one) and at the other end of the line, it will fit into the very small hole with a brass fitting spreading it out and holding it in place. Be very careful with the small bolts holding in the oiler too, they are itty bitty threads and can strip (thanks for the warning last time guys) very easily. Good Luck, and let us know how it comes out. Jason __________________ "just a thick rubber and vasoline." ---Lakeside53

03-07-2007, 09:00 PM	#4
Griffbm3 Arboristsite MVP Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 632	Check your PM's Just sent you a PM about it... Jason __________________ "just a thick rubber and vasoline." ---Lakeside53

03-08-2007, 05:43 AM	#8
Timberhauler Arboristsite MVP Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southeast USA Posts: 1,961	Imagine that...Yet another Stihl with oiling problems.. Sorry I couldn't resist. __________________ I am the beast that feeds the beast. "Two Roads diverged in a wood,and I took the one less traveled by,and that has made all the difference"...Robert Frost.

03-09-2007, 12:11 PM	#9
Bowtie Gearhead Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Kansas Posts: 5,435	Can any of you guys tell me what size of hose to use to replace the oil delivery hose on an 034? At least inside diameter would be appreciated. i looked at my shop manual and IPL, didnt get what I was looking for. __________________ ---------------------------------------------------

03-07-2007, 08:53 PM	#3
hvy048 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Goldendale, Washington Posts: 46	So it is necessary to remove the oil pump?

03-07-2007, 09:00 PM	#5
drunkenredneck Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Napavine,WA Posts: 73	Do yourself a favor and pull the clutch and oil pump it will be much easier to fix the line. Don't forget the clutch is reverse thread.

03-07-2007, 09:11 PM	#6
hvy048 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Goldendale, Washington Posts: 46	OK!...oil pump is in hand. I found a distorted delivery line as if it had heat applied to it...like a "heat shrink bubble. Sure enough, it has a pinhole in it.

03-07-2007, 11:01 PM	#7
hvy048 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Goldendale, Washington Posts: 46	I gotta say it again..........YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST!!

03-09-2007, 05:47 PM	#10
Scandy14 Arboristsite MVP Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Over yonder....... Posts: 779	Oil Pump Hose The best I can measure, the hose is approximately 5/32" ID, and between 15/64" and 1/4" OD. I just installed the oil line replacement kit last night on my 034 Super, and it was a job, but finally got it done, thanks to some tips that I read that was posted by Lakeside awhile back. Hope this helps.

03-09-2007, 07:42 PM	#11
Lakeside53 Stihl Wrenching Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Woodinville, WA Posts: 24,740	Buy the Stihl oil hose kit... In addition to the hose, it contains a new brass end and a coil spring to keep the hose from colapsing..Don't try to shoehorn in a no-metric hose size..I n a SQUEEZE, you can use stihl standard fuel line but it may not take the high temps radiated off by the clutch drum. Kit - part number 1124 007 1010. Cut the hose to exactly 74mm... Do an AS search for the process... (takes heat..) __________________ “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C. Clarke,

03-09-2007, 08:01 PM	#12
Bowtie Gearhead Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Kansas Posts: 5,435	Thanks a bunch Andy. I love this saw, and Im gonna do her up right. __________________ ---------------------------------------------------

03-12-2007, 04:22 PM	#13
southern man Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Chilworth,Guildford,Surrey,U.K. Posts: 6	036 oil prob Great site.Glad I found you .Was searching for a place to get a (scarce it seems!) workshop manual for an 036 that a lady had in her shed.She wants me to clear a woodland up a bit.First I found the chain gnashed and guide bar bent,chain catch missing.Replaced that,cleaned it up and got all the other bits and pieces to do the job and oh dear! same problem as what hvy048 described.All sounding and looking fine ,but no oil onto the guide bar.I think I have a clear idea it's not the pump,but rather the feed hose.I also find oil coming out of the adjuster screw.Will check hose out tomorrow.Thanks for the tips.Keep up the good work.

03-12-2007, 05:00 PM	#14
hvy048 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Goldendale, Washington Posts: 46	036 oiler Southern man, I got some valuable help from folks at this site, and I see you are too. A special thanks to Jason, and Lakeside who helped him get this problem straightened out. It is a great comfort to me to have all this knowledge to tap into. Jack

03-23-2007, 07:35 PM	#15
southern man Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Chilworth,Guildford,Surrey,U.K. Posts: 6	SAW Sorted ! Thanks a ton for the help.Here I am,sitting all the way in England with a prob and you diagnose it and solve my prob from there in the US.Guess there's some good things to be said for the high tech coms of the modern era,even if it gets a bit stressy at times.Sorry took a while to get back ,but I think I sent my reply the long way round,via a Ms Jennifer Johnson. All the best till next time.As I say saw's sorted and grand.Was the hose.

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