Should I start a business????
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the Aerialist
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Can't seem to PM you ...
Hey my name is Doug too! I tried twice to PM you but it didn't go, crap lots of typing too and I'm slow.
I'm not hiding. Most of my videos have my web site prominently displayed, I'll make it easy here's the link:
http://www.AerialArborist.com
Go there and read all about me and my business. As far as 1919 what is that? You guys got a Union now? But I have been at the 1908 bar in Market Square downtown.
I wanted to do this in a PM but apparently your account is not accepting them. Just as I have said earlier I am working in Mt. Lebanon tomorrow (Tues) and Wednesday with Thursday being needed most likely as well.
The nitty gritty is that there are three trees to take down. If you want to work and quote me a fair hourly price for contract climbing you are hired and you can take your pick of the trees. There is plenty of tree work for both of us to do. I have three, maybe four ground workers coming. You don't have to pick up a twig, they will run the chipper and drag the brush. If you want to bring your own ropeman I'll pay him $15 hr with a bonus if you two achieve high production working together, payment in cash before you leave.
The third tree is big and has a major low hanging branch that is right over the house service line. If you have a towable lift you will wish you brought it should you chose to work that tree.
The rub is this project starts tomorrow at 10:00 in Mt. Lebanon. I have Wednesday and Thursday blocked out and I am hoping to start on the more difficult tree on Wednesday, although I won't have the luxury of a lift and I'll have to limbwalk way out to get at the wires, thats if I can get both of the easy ones done tomorrow. Otherwise, and most likely, the big one will go into Thursday.
I'll pay a fair wage (just tell me what it is) and I'll pay extra (you name it) if you bring the lift. There will be much more work for you if this works out.
Fastest way is get my cell phone humber off the heading of my web site and give me a call. It's a 24/7 phone line, but leave a message if I am unable to answer.
Or send me an email:
[email protected]
I could honestly use some help on this one.
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO ALERT DOUG TO THIS MESSAGE? PLEASE DO IT IF YOU CAN
Hey my name is Doug too! I tried twice to PM you but it didn't go, crap lots of typing too and I'm slow.
I'm not hiding. Most of my videos have my web site prominently displayed, I'll make it easy here's the link:
http://www.AerialArborist.com
Go there and read all about me and my business. As far as 1919 what is that? You guys got a Union now? But I have been at the 1908 bar in Market Square downtown.
I wanted to do this in a PM but apparently your account is not accepting them. Just as I have said earlier I am working in Mt. Lebanon tomorrow (Tues) and Wednesday with Thursday being needed most likely as well.
The nitty gritty is that there are three trees to take down. If you want to work and quote me a fair hourly price for contract climbing you are hired and you can take your pick of the trees. There is plenty of tree work for both of us to do. I have three, maybe four ground workers coming. You don't have to pick up a twig, they will run the chipper and drag the brush. If you want to bring your own ropeman I'll pay him $15 hr with a bonus if you two achieve high production working together, payment in cash before you leave.
The third tree is big and has a major low hanging branch that is right over the house service line. If you have a towable lift you will wish you brought it should you chose to work that tree.
The rub is this project starts tomorrow at 10:00 in Mt. Lebanon. I have Wednesday and Thursday blocked out and I am hoping to start on the more difficult tree on Wednesday, although I won't have the luxury of a lift and I'll have to limbwalk way out to get at the wires, thats if I can get both of the easy ones done tomorrow. Otherwise, and most likely, the big one will go into Thursday.
I'll pay a fair wage (just tell me what it is) and I'll pay extra (you name it) if you bring the lift. There will be much more work for you if this works out.
Fastest way is get my cell phone humber off the heading of my web site and give me a call. It's a 24/7 phone line, but leave a message if I am unable to answer.
Or send me an email:
[email protected]
I could honestly use some help on this one.
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO ALERT DOUG TO THIS MESSAGE? PLEASE DO IT IF YOU CAN
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Hiya Doug!!
May I be a 'Devil's Advocate' for a moment? Thanks, I will. So you offer all this service and then end your post with " Quote" , I could really use your help on this one." Quote.
Did you bid that in? You need to really slow down and take a breathe. We are tree guy's too and for me, you sound desperate. No offense, just being me.
Jeff
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Hiya Doug!!
So you offer all this service and then end your post with " Quote" , I could really use your help on this one." Quote.
Did you bid that in? You need to really slow down and take a breathe. We are tree guy's too and for me, you sound desperate. No offense, just being me.
Jeff
No I really could use a good climber on this job, this is Christmas week and cold as hell here, I'm trading money for comfort and speed. I've bid this job to where I could bring another climber in. Doug's pay will be in cash at the end of the day. Offering to let him bring his own ropeman I think is more than fair. I know how important a ropeman is though.
And as far as honesty needing help on this one, I will do this job this week with or without Doug and with or without a lift.
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You seem like a good guy. I still want to Razz you tho. I feel your strong point is marketing ( which I know) and desire to fit in. Good job AA.
Jeff
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Desire to fit in?
Desire to fit it? Not so much Jeff, I'm quite a Maverick and always have been. It's always worked to my benefit. I only tolerate you guys 'cause I want to learn from you.
Actually in the flesh I'm quite personable, well spoken and easy to like, especially if I'm selling you something. I'm quite an affable guy when I want to be, on the other hand... Well I won't go there...
You seem like a good guy. I still want to Razz you tho. I feel your strong point is marketing ( which I know) and desire to fit in. Good job AA.
Jeff
Desire to fit it? Not so much Jeff, I'm quite a Maverick and always have been. It's always worked to my benefit. I only tolerate you guys 'cause I want to learn from you.
Actually in the flesh I'm quite personable, well spoken and easy to like, especially if I'm selling you something. I'm quite an affable guy when I want to be, on the other hand... Well I won't go there...
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the Aerialist
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Here's how good a guy I am ...
Oh actually I am I do my civic duty even when I have a big job in bad conditions the next day. I just got a message and accepted the job (I'm a licensed,checked out by the FBI and TSA) Courier with an Airport security clearance and more importantly credentialed to park in the commercial lot at PIT.
I'm picking up a box of human tissue (I call it the eyeball run) from the Lion's club eyebank in Newark coming into PIT (Pittsburgh International Airport) I do this nearly 365 days a year, Including Thanksgiving, Christmas, New year and most infuriating for my wife, valentine's day.
It doesn't pay that well and my wife says I'm crazy to keep doing it, but I've done it for 127 weeks straight. I think I'm helping people.
Oh actually I am I do my civic duty even when I have a big job in bad conditions the next day. I just got a message and accepted the job (I'm a licensed,checked out by the FBI and TSA) Courier with an Airport security clearance and more importantly credentialed to park in the commercial lot at PIT.
I'm picking up a box of human tissue (I call it the eyeball run) from the Lion's club eyebank in Newark coming into PIT (Pittsburgh International Airport) I do this nearly 365 days a year, Including Thanksgiving, Christmas, New year and most infuriating for my wife, valentine's day.
It doesn't pay that well and my wife says I'm crazy to keep doing it, but I've done it for 127 weeks straight. I think I'm helping people.
Duh! That is what I just said!
Guess what I gotta do in the morning in the middle of the ' Pine-apple Express'. I got to cross the San Marcos Creek! Yeah! No, Dang creek makes you think. My tail-pipe under-water. When I wake up tomorrow, it will be a little over 3 feet high. Here is a pic when then creek is not so high.Jeff
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So I made this thing to fit nice enuff to get thru the creek. Kinda wanna not have to rev it up to get thru. I take it off on the other side. Laugh if you want, but you are not me.
A lot of rain here. I could be trapped!!! :rant:
Jeff
A lot of rain here. I could be trapped!!! :rant:
Jeff
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I'll help ...
I tried about the same thing with a dirt bike in the Winter, way back in the woods. I tried the opposite approach (I didn't have a homemade snorkel) I tried to gun it through but only made it halfway before the engine drowned.. Once I pushed to the far bank I realized I had to push it through again to get home.
friendly advice: roll your windows down and don't wear your seatbelt for this one.
I tried about the same thing with a dirt bike in the Winter, way back in the woods. I tried the opposite approach (I didn't have a homemade snorkel) I tried to gun it through but only made it halfway before the engine drowned.. Once I pushed to the far bank I realized I had to push it through again to get home.
friendly advice: roll your windows down and don't wear your seatbelt for this one.
So I made this thing to fit nice enuff to get thru the creek. Kinda wanna not have to rev it up to get thru. I take it off on the other side. Laugh if you want, but you are not me.
A lot of rain here. I could be trapped!!! :rant:
Jeff
oops!
ropensaddle
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Lol my internode just shot plum past its leaf scar if that's possible
I have been contemplating my infiltration rates here at the farm and though it is rich in clay I have many macropores here but little silt or sand it seems ideal for a tree farm setting.
ropensaddle
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Lol my internode just shot plum past its leaf scar if that's possible
Having many pin oak and white oak even red oak starters in the 8 foot range I was wondering if a bagged and bur lapped setting after a years hardening would be a promotable service or if it would be more work than its worth?
ropensaddle
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I have not looked into trees of that size pricing!
ropensaddle
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Hmmmm maybe christmas trees would be a better result.
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i would say personally if you want a tree service then start out by partnering with someone. or even private contract with another company to gain experience in the field before going alone.....the fab shop would be a better business i agree due to the demand for various products....you could build farm implements or about anything to stay a float our local fab shop build pallet racks and various things for different companies when work gets slow.... find a company that requires items that aren't local and build them locally to save freight cost's etc.... to try to run two business's at same time is a real headache. i worked the 40hr job and ran 2 small business's and lets say there was no time to do anything right....i sold both business's to get some free time and saved money and sanity. you would be better off if still interested in cutting trees to start a firewood service and buy a bandsaw mill for a side business.less cost and risk...and could still run out of same shop.just a thought.:newbie:
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Well, an on topic comment ...
That is exactly what I did, my Mentor and partner was very old school, I think he only had one carabiner and it was a screw lock. He was all about knots for everything. But he was good, real good in the tree.
The problem was once I started climbing more then we had two climbers that's hard in a small business, it's sort of like the Highlander with climbers, "There can only be one". We both agreed to go our own way, but in the end I had work and he didn't. He's a chicken farmer now, claims he working in trees occasionally. But I'm not so sure, I've offered him jobs but he is too proud to accept.
I worked as a IC climber for a few companies during this time and made good money 'cause it was steady, but gradually my web site and word of mouth built my business up and I only rarely have gone out as an IC. I went from $160 to $200 a day, then $400 and even $500 a day. Once I hit that level the demand for my services went way down.
Now with my own business I shoot for $1000 a day, my end, after paying my crew. Of course not every job works out that well, but that how much it takes to pay the bills. Sometimes the crew makes more than me after expenses.
That is exactly what I did, my Mentor and partner was very old school, I think he only had one carabiner and it was a screw lock. He was all about knots for everything. But he was good, real good in the tree.
The problem was once I started climbing more then we had two climbers that's hard in a small business, it's sort of like the Highlander with climbers, "There can only be one". We both agreed to go our own way, but in the end I had work and he didn't. He's a chicken farmer now, claims he working in trees occasionally. But I'm not so sure, I've offered him jobs but he is too proud to accept.
I worked as a IC climber for a few companies during this time and made good money 'cause it was steady, but gradually my web site and word of mouth built my business up and I only rarely have gone out as an IC. I went from $160 to $200 a day, then $400 and even $500 a day. Once I hit that level the demand for my services went way down.
Now with my own business I shoot for $1000 a day, my end, after paying my crew. Of course not every job works out that well, but that how much it takes to pay the bills. Sometimes the crew makes more than me after expenses.
